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    Regarding the Wai. I have alot of Thai friend and have spent a great deal of times with their families. I have been expected and often instructed to Wai to elders, people of importance, monks etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by danielson
    Regarding the Wai. I have alot of Thai friend and have spent a great deal of times with their families. I have been expected and often instructed to Wai to elders, people of importance, monks etc.
    Well, if your asked to do it, okay. My wife wanted me to do it to her father when I first met him. I didn't, he didn't do it to me. It pissed her off. Oh well. But sometimes you do it and people laugh at you. I know they do. It may depend on the person. I will never do it coz I am not Thai. End uv story, and a lot of Thai people respect that in a person, and expect, but some are different.
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    The problem with these "Training in Thailand" threads are that they often end up degenerating to essentializations and generalizations.

    If someone is older than you, or in a position of superiority (from a Thai perspective), I would wai. If it's the waiter showing you to your table, a wai is likely out of place.

    When I first get to the camp, I wai the head-trainer, and his wife if she is around. If a guest-trainer who is older than me, or a promoter drops by the camp, I wai them too. The other fighters wai me when I arrive (I am the oldest fighter there), so it goes both ways. This is not, however, what it is like at the larger camps that cater to foreigners.

    Work is a whole different dynamic that I won't get into here...
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    Well that is a good input but it sounds like you are more grown into your gym than 99.9% of other westerners that go to Thailand to train. You have obviously been there a long time and you arent in a tourist place. The Thais will look at you differently than someone just arriving from the airport with sunburns and carrying around a backpack.

    It is the people that are going to Thailand for the first time that this thread will be most useful to and to them different rules will apply. For them to start wai-ing everyone left and right is just outright silly.

    When I first got to a camp I trained at I made the mistake of waiŽing the head trainer. He just chuckled and shook my hand.

    He obviously thought it was a silly thing of me to do and I felt pretty awkward after it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Draven
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    It is the people that are going to Thailand for the first time that this thread will be most useful to and to them different rules will apply. For them to start wai-ing everyone left and right is just outright silly.
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    This is true. I was going to reply to your other post about not bothering with the wai, and say that while it's a pretty complicated thing for us foreignters to understand at first, it's worth it to learn who you should wai to.

    Then I saw this post. You are right, this thread is targetted towards first time visitors, and it's ok and even understood that they don't know about the wai.

    That said, if you get it right (i.e. you don't wai waiters and bus drivers, but you do wai the owner of the Muay Thai camp you train at, and you only wai someone the first time you run into them on a given day, etc.), Thais will appreciate it and it will go a long way to show your respect for their culture.
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    Very Informative Thread Draven.
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    On the subject of prostitution in Thailand, and sex tourism.

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    Is it true that drug-resistant maleria is a problem in Thailand? I was told by someone once that the black-marketeering of medecines in Thailand led to improper usages of the drugs, and thus the development of drug resistant diseases, such as maleria, but I haven't been. What sort of vaccinations is someone looking at when they go to Thailand?
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    You donŽt have to worry about Malaria at all in Thailand. In Cambodia, maybe, but not in Thailand. There are a few vaccinations that are recommended, just speak to your doctor about that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by socratic
    Is it true that drug-resistant maleria is a problem in Thailand? I was told by someone once that the black-marketeering of medecines in Thailand led to improper usages of the drugs, and thus the development of drug resistant diseases, such as maleria, but I haven't been. What sort of vaccinations is someone looking at when they go to Thailand?
    If you are asking about vaccinations in general, I recall that I needed to get a few, but see a doctor about which ones you will need at least six weeks before leaving.

    As far as malaria, there is no vaccine yet, but there are drugs that can help prevent contracting the disease. There are different strains of malaria in different regions of the world, and different drugs are effective against the different strains. Before going to Thailand and Cambodia for the first time, I went to the hospital to get all of my immunizations up-to-date. They also gave me a drug called malarone as a preventative measure while in Cambodia (I live in the US, and doctors in other countries may prescribe different drugs).

    My doctor said that malarone and the other anti-malaria drugs are not guaranteed to prevent infection, and they have side effects (usually anxiety and weird dreams). The best prevention is to avoid being bitten by mosquitos, which are the vectors for both malaria and dengue fever (for which there is also no vaccine). However, unlike malaria there is no preventive medicine and no treatment for dengue fever, other than rest, hydration, and treating the symptoms with Paracetamol or Tylenol to help bring the fever down.

    I have never had malaria, and as Draven said, it is not a significant risk in Thailand, especially in the areas where most tourists are likely to go. I have had dengue fever though, which is more commmon and it is a real pain. It isn't likely that you will get it on a holiday, unless for some reason you spend a lot of time out in the countryside. It is not usually fatal in healthy adults, but it is occasionally in infants and the elderly.

    The best way to avoid getting bitten by mosquitos is to use a good mosquito repellent containing DEET, and to sleep under a mosquito net at night. These are available cheaply in Thailand, but at home you can probably buy longer-lasting time release mosquito repellent lotions such as the type made by Sawyer. I have used Sawyer's and it works well. You can find it at most outdoor recreation stores that sell camping equipment.
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