Taekwondo legitimacy...

**tharuz** · Posted On: 4/11/2008 12:41am

This kid probably just got his black belt in TKD and came in his pants.

I doubt he has any muscle, or even realises how his little TKD bullshit doesn't ever come close to wrestling conditioning.

**hpr** · Posted On: 4/11/2008 12:41am

Cung Le can keep the fight off ground because he's got wrestling skills.

How about you? You know how to sprawl? Fine. Are you the god of sprawling? No? What about clinching? No? Then get some ground game, wrestling or otherwise. Your attitude is straight out of the early 90's.

**RABA** · Posted On: 4/11/2008 12:42am

Originally Posted by grandultimate1

So you are saying that I won't be able to do it because I will not work as hard? That does not make sense.

*edit: let me rephrase that. I work out with guys, they can not touch me. I do pretty well. I think I could bring my style into the cage pretty well. After seeing Cung Le perform I think it is definitely possible.

You are saying that Bas Rutten and Sylvia have done it. I have seen Sylvia fight and he moves like me. So I am assuming you are saying go for it. Thank you very much.

I have to remember this is the comedy forum.

**DSL** · Posted On: 4/11/2008 12:45am

Find an MMA gym, and go train for about 6-12 months before thinking about your first fight.
Learn wrestling, at the very least takedown defense, sprawl (boxing jab works too), learn BJJ at least the fundamentals, learn boxing. THEN take your TKD into the ring.

Cung's San Shou Record: 17-0, 12 KO. His MMA record is 6-0-0 I believe. My point is, he didn't walk in off the street even with his amazing SS record and skills... he went and trained Jits and Wrestling.

**grandultimate1** · Posted On: 4/11/2008 12:47am

Originally Posted by Rivington

What's your Plan B?

To get up off the ground.

Originally Posted by tharuz

This kid probably just got his black belt in TKD and came in his pants.

I doubt he has any muscle, or even realises how his little TKD bullshit doesn't ever come close to wrestling conditioning.

TKD bullshit conditioning? I do not think for 1 second that TKD comes near wrestling but I doubt you have ever taken a good TKD class if you think their conditioning is bullshit.

No I plan on doing much plyometrics, and resitance training. I am currently 185lbs 5' 10" with a 275 bench press and a 400lbs squat. I plan on dropping my weight lifting to more of a repitition based work out.

As for my sprawl, my tai chi takes care of that.

**Steve** · Posted On: 4/11/2008 12:50am

Originally Posted by grandultimate1

Yes, and if I posted that they did TKD I believe the next thing I would hear is something about them doing MT. I do TKD, I want to get into MMA. My plan? Stay off the ground. I figure I do a mma already might as well make it official.

No, you do TKD and Tai Chi. Two stand up arts that don't include any ground game (a requirement for someone to say they do MMA).

Please change your style field to reflect that.

**grandultimate1** · Posted On: 4/11/2008 12:52am

Originally Posted by Steve

No, you do TKD and Tai Chi. Two stand up arts that don't include any ground game (a requirement for someone to say they do MMA).

Please change your style field to reflect that.

I do not understand. I was told that the mixture of two different arts is mixed martial arts. I figure I was planning on going that route anyway so why would I change my style field? It's not like I'll be practicing in a Kwoon or a Dojang to get ready for fights.

**Steve** · Posted On: 4/11/2008 12:54am

Okay, you're retarded.

**grandultimate1** · Posted On: 4/11/2008 12:55am

Originally Posted by Rivington

Well, I'm hysterically curious. What sort of taiji do you do and where are you studying it? Also, did your teacher tell you that taiji means "grand ultimate"?

Well yes, he jokingly said that once and I just went with it. Sifu David really has not elaborated on the style of Tai Chi we do but it is not the standing in the park when the sunrise comes up and take 60 minutes to do 3 movements style of Tai chi either. He said that comes much later.

**grandultimate1** · Posted On: 4/11/2008 1:00am

Originally Posted by Steve

Okay, you're retarded.

And your basis on this is what?

I am just playing with most of you. I know what you mean, I wanted to know if you possibly see TKD as turning into a more legitimate style to be used in the cage. Since my kicking techniques come from TKD I have a biased view. That is all. I'm not slow. If your mind has not changed on the matter after seeing those fights that is fine. I was just curious.