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  1. BFGalbraith is offline

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     Style: Tai Chi, Jujitsu, knife

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    What is the best alternative to point fighting rule sets for Korean systems?

    Quote Originally Posted by Matt W.
    This thread sucks.

    I was hoping it was going to be a discussion about what we all think would make a good ruleset for TKD fighting, and I was going to say the WCL. Much WCL hate would ensue, but I'm serious I think it would work really well for TKD and what TKD is meant to be.

    Instead I find this is a continuation of a lame argument from another thread. Yeah. Sucks.

    WLC ruleset = ?

    This is an important question, because it might work for other styles in trouble besides TKD, Korean or otherwise.

    Obviously the "correct answer" is "all styles should fight in the cage," but I don't think it's fair to say that everyone that does martial arts for recreation or self defense should have to have a professional fight record.

    So what about rulesets? I have advocated TKD use KO Karate rulesets numerous times. Here is an example of how much that can improve TKD:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8IBKwQybvvc
    (I didn't get this idea from this video, but from watching TKD people cross train with Enshin fighters in preparation for a KO Karate competition in Seattle in the mid 90's. Also, the San Shou fighting at the Tiger Balm has done a lot to help Chinese Martial Arts and others in the North West.)

    I have also been wondering about Sport Jujitsu or ameture San Shou rulesets (since TKD has some stand up grappling stuff in the patterns.)

    What tournament multiple-style (more than TKD-only allowed) rule set would help TKD the most?
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     Style: Tai Chi, Jujitsu, knife

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    Quote Originally Posted by Art
    WTF . . . kicking with your foot in the air like that will not award you the point and generally your opponent will simply rush in on you and dump you on your ass if you intend to look like a flamingo.

    Does WTF have limited throws allowed, or is this just something people do as a defense against the Wallace kick?
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     Style: BJJ/C-JKD/KAAALIII!!!!!!!

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    It's not throws, it's bum rushing your opponent to shoulder check them when the ref isn't looking, or slamming him with a back kick cuz the dumbass wants to stand on one leg for an extended period of time.

    Flamingoing screams "KNOCK ME THE **** OUT" to anyone with a modicum of Olympic rules experience.
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     Style: TKD, wrestling, BJJ

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    Personally I like rushing with a punch if someone is going to stand on one leg. Knocks them on their ass and the get a warning for falling (with competent ref) Really win win for me.
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     Style: TKD, wrestling, BJJ

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    Quote Originally Posted by BFGalbraith
    WLC ruleset = ?

    This is an important question, because it might work for other styles in trouble besides TKD, Korean or otherwise.

    Obviously the "correct answer" is "all styles should fight in the cage," but I don't think it's fair to say that everyone that does martial arts for recreation or self defense should have to have a professional fight record.

    So what about rulesets? I have advocated TKD use KO Karate rulesets numerous times. Here is an example of how much that can improve TKD:

    (I didn't get this idea from this video, but from watching TKD people cross train with Enshin fighters in preparation for a KO Karate competition in Seattle in the mid 90's. Also, the San Shou fighting at the Tiger Balm has done a lot to help Chinese Martial Arts and others in the North West.)

    I have also been wondering about Sport Jujitsu or ameture San Shou rulesets (since TKD has some stand up grappling stuff in the patterns.)

    What tournament multiple-style (more than TKD-only allowed) rule set would help TKD the most?
    Okay I gotta ask . . . what is your TKD experience?
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     Style: BJJ/C-JKD/KAAALIII!!!!!!!

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    Do they not teach logic in school anymore?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Art
    WTF . . . kicking with your foot in the air like that will not award you the point and generally your opponent will simply rush in on you and dump you on your ass if you intend to look like a flamingo.
    looking like a flamingo is exactly what influenced all of TKD. Learn your history.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Errant108
    Do they not teach logic in school anymore?
    In regards to what?
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     Style: BJJ/C-JKD/KAAALIII!!!!!!!

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    Yup. Lack of critical thinking...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Errant108
    Yup. Lack of critical thinking...
    Do any of your posts make sense?
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