Shin vs ball of the foot

**Snake Plissken** · Posted On: 4/09/2008 7:20pm

Originally Posted by Zapruder

Damn dude you need to get yourself a better uke then

Considering how much the ? like hentai, this is just even funnier.

**Zyph** · Posted On: 4/09/2008 7:31pm

Wanted to give a serious response to this. I think the RHK hitting with the ball of the foot is archaic at best, and bad fighting at worst. There is a reason that most combat arts have phased things like this out. It is far too much work for the pay off when you can get the same results with less margin of error out of the shin.

I am not sure why a thing like that was ever envisioned. I guess someone thought it worked well for the front kick, why not the RHK. Answer: Different approach, shorter distance on the teep/ front kick.

As for broken toes, when I left TKD long, long ago it was with some REALLY bad habits. One of those was instep kicking (I think the better teachers have phased this out too), and front snap kick which is a bit different from a teep. Several times I broke tows before learning my lesson.

The foot is a weak weapon compared to the shin, no matter how you cut it. The denser solid bone as compared to smaller lighter bones was a very good argument. Also I am pretty sure the tongue is the strongest muscle in the body, followed by the heart (I only know the tongue one from trivial pursue, I said heart and it was wrong ;) )

**frikifu** · Posted On: 4/09/2008 8:16pm

http://es.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kOuLugjHZQY

shin action, yeah!!!

**frikifu** · Posted On: 4/09/2008 8:30pm

Originally Posted by The Question

If they are moving at a constant speed, they will deliver EXACTLY the same amout of force.Because speed has NOTHING to do with force.

Are you sure? The speed of the impact counts a lot.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kinetic...f_rigid_bodies

**Zyph** · Posted On: 4/09/2008 8:55pm

Was there a point you wanted to make?

**The Question** · Posted On: 4/09/2008 9:04pm

Originally Posted by frikifu

Are you sure? The speed of the impact counts a lot.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kinetic...f_rigid_bodies

Eh, just leave it. I was speaking in a strictly Newtonian way. If bodies are moving at constant speed they exert no force since the are not accelerating (force is dependent only on mass and acceleration yadda yadda). Of course when they encoutner a body they will begin to have negative acceleration and therefore a force will be exerted on the other body involved in the collision etc....).

Energy is not force. Energy is Nm. Force is N.

This **** doesn't even matter though. **** that.

**The Question** · Posted On: 4/09/2008 9:08pm

Originally Posted by Zapruder

Damn dude you need to get yourself a better uke then

What the **** is an uke?

**Kintanon** · Posted On: 4/09/2008 10:10pm

Also, I'm not talking about foot shattering compound fractures, I'm just talking about hairline breaks to small bones. I've seen the x-rays of my foot after a decade of TKD round kicks with the ball of my foot. You can definitely tell that the bones were broken several times in places.

**elbines** · Posted On: 4/09/2008 10:32pm

Originally Posted by Zyph

The foot is a weak weapon compared to the shin, no matter how you cut it. The denser solid bone as compared to smaller lighter bones was a very good argument. Also I am pretty sure the tongue is the strongest muscle in the body, followed by the heart (I only know the tongue one from trivial pursue, I said heart and it was wrong ;) )

Are you fucking serious? the tongue? I always thought it was the heart too.

**NJM** · Posted On: 4/09/2008 10:58pm

I misgauged distance and accidentally kicked a shin with my foot on Saturday. X-rays show a chipped Metatarsal. I can't spar for two weeks and I walk with a limp.

This is why you don't roundhouse with the ball of the foot.