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  1. Matt W. is offline
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    Posted On:
    12/05/2003 10:06am

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    ONCE AGAIN MATT, WE ARE NOT PRODUCING FIGHTERS!!! WE TEACH SELF DEFENSE!!!
    If you can't fight you won't be able to physicaly defend yourself. Physically defending youself is fighting!

    Matt
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    well then matt, in that case we dont define it as fighting, we define it as defending.....
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    that is a good idea, we do have something like that, you learn everything, but your not a sensei until you are 16
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    Posted On:
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    Mobius, Vesper, I can fully appreciate you're defense of your dojo, but please at least read some of the other threads on the forum as I think you need to understand where many here draw the line between teaching fighting methods and learning how to fight. Your distinction between self-defense and fighting is spurious as self-defence is mainly a legal term. If you are involved in a violent conflict, you're fighting, no matter what the cause was. As for linking style and racism, please no, not even remotely similar. I presume you can choose/change your style, with the possible exception of good ol' Michael, you can't choose your race. Disrespecting someone's choice is rather different than disrespecting their race.

    phrost, thanks, no you're my first stfu (warm fuzzy feeling of belonging), Osisris was a bit busy beeing boggled by this thread to do it methinks.
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    Another contributing factor is that a lot of the kids we get are problem children, who need to learn discapline, respect, or have ADD or ADHD, or have emotional problems. We try and keep the atmosphere relatively non-confrontational, seeing as how most of these kids would probably be good sparring partners and give you a run for your money.
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    Disrespect is Desprespect
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    thanx again for your uplifting opinion. now go away, you said all you needed to and then some, bye osiris
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    You may see them as different, but I do not. I understand that there is freedom of speech, and that applies here. But show me the credentials that qualify you (all of you) to say whether or not a certain style practices wrong.
  9. Ronin is offline

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    You two seem rather young and inexperienced when it comes to the MA, so I think Osiris should cut you some slack ( He won't).
    I fail to see how you are teaching "self defense".
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    Just don't say anything off topic anymore, and we wont' either, agreed?
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