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  1. liuzg150181 is offline
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    Originally posted by Repulsive Monkey
    There is certainly an alarming correlation between running a McDojo and having a desperate need for validation through credentials--even when those credentials are largely made up.

    For example, you know that black belt in "Jung Mul Sul" Bainton has? Try finding mention of that art anywhere but in relation to him. How about his Doctorate of Philosophy from the College of Advanced Education and the Department of Martial Arts Studies? And what about that International Black Belt Hall of Fame? Can you find an actual website for it? I can't.

    Other red flags are the astonishing number of 19-year olds with fifth degree black belts and the lack of explanation anywhere on the site for the details of the art Bainton invented. And not that it relates to anything, but those quasi-Chinese characters next to the dangling belts on the home page . . . Some are made-up, some are non-sensical and anything vaguely recognizable is upside down.


    Oh yeah, and there's this kid.
    I m a ethnic Chinese and i dont even know what that inscription means!!!Is it some rune used by mage?
    And whats wrong wif the kid?
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    11/18/2003 8:24am


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    Well, I did find another few sites that list Kung Jung Moo Sool (Mu Sul in Korean is like 'bu jutsu', so I figured he just misspelled it). It is listed on the Korean Martial Arts Resource page here: http://www.martialartsresource.com/korean/korean.htm

    I am not sure what it means to have been promoted to 10th by a Hall of Fame. The only MA Hall of Fame I know anything about is the TX one, and people are nominated and voted for recognition, but not rank promotion. Anyone know more about that?
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    So he's got a black belt in it, but he's mispelling the name?
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    Oh yeah, and there's this kid.
    RM,

    Please remove the picture of the kid. There is no reason whatsoever to bring him into this discussion as it proves no point whatsoever.
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    Originally posted by liuzg150181
    I m a ethnic Chinese and i dont even know what that inscription means!!!
    If I remember correctly that writing is the precursor to modern chinese writing or Japanese writing prior to the adaptation of Chinese. Kind of a Sanskrit, if you will.

    I personally don't see anything wrong with the school on the surface, as someone said, they are not making outrageous claims. As for the credits, that is simple marketing, the more stuff under your name the more people are wanting to learn from you. Hey it's a business what do you expect?

    The proof will be in the actual teachings. Go and watch a class, and if your brother-in-law likes it, then more power too him.
    Jeremy M. Talbott

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    Quote Originally Posted by D.Murray
    "Which is better, to learn the truth, or to enjoy the illusion of being right when you are not?"
    Quote Originally Posted by hangooknamja88 View Post
    My definition of Ki is our energy. it's rather hard to explain it in words. It's not some mystical type of energy like white people...


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    11/18/2003 10:28am


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    Miguksaram, I can check, but that isn't necessarily a precursor to Chinese writing, but simply another style to write characters in. This is the style still used today in the 'seal' people use to officially sign documents. It definately looks upside down. If I get a chance, I will try to get a translation later.
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    *shoves pen into own eyeball*
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    Is that supposed to be grass writing? Um...it is upside down.
    Normally, I'd say I was grappling, but I was taking down and mounting people, and JFS has kindly informed us that takedowns and being mounted are neither grappling nor anti grappling, so I'm not sure what the **** I was doing. Maybe schroedinger's sparring, where it's neither grappling nor anti-grappling until somoene observes it and collapses the waveform, and then I RNC a cat to death.----fatherdog
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    Posted On:
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    Not a McDojo! here's why:
    1) No outrageous claims
    2) No Fake titles in real arts
    3) All goals are clearly stated and seem to be being achieved
    4) No Contracts

    This place may be lame but it's not a McDojo because ther is no dishonest or misleading information.

    Also I agree with Migurasan please leave that kid out of this! He obvioulsy has some issues besides being at this school.
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     Style: Brazilian Jiujitsu

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    *Boggles*
    Normally, I'd say I was grappling, but I was taking down and mounting people, and JFS has kindly informed us that takedowns and being mounted are neither grappling nor anti grappling, so I'm not sure what the **** I was doing. Maybe schroedinger's sparring, where it's neither grappling nor anti-grappling until somoene observes it and collapses the waveform, and then I RNC a cat to death.----fatherdog
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