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    As Tom said, we were at the show covering it for Bullshido. There was nothing inappropriate about that submission. Bussade had been hunting for leg locks the whole fight! Lennox, did ok escaping/defensing up to that point, and honestly, I did not think Bussade was going to get one based on all the previous escapes. But, Lennox gave it to him that time...he stood right up into it...straightened the leg for Bussade. Why? who knows...over confidence? Whatever the reason, Bussade got a nice sub and the W.

    The scream was pretty serious! Echoed in the arena. I am curious as to the nature of the injury too. Knee stuff is painful (from experience).

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    Dark Overlord of the Bullshido Underworld supporting member
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    Steve put together a Podcast of this ouchie and other impressions from the night. The Bussade/Lennox fight starts at 8:21. Goto this thread for the podcast:
    http://www.bullshido.net/forums/showthread.php?t=68480
    Last edited by Tom Kagan; 4/10/2008 4:59pm at .
    Calm down, it's only ones and zeros.

    "Your calm and professional manner of response is really draining all the fun out of this. Can you reply more like Dr. Fagbot or something? Call me some names, mention some sand in my vagina or something of the sort. You can't expect me to come up with reasonable arguments man!" -- MaverickZ

    "Tom Kagan spins in his grave and the fucking guy isn't even dead yet." -- Snake Plissken

    My Bullshido fan club threads:
    Tom Kagan's a big hairy...
    Tom Kagan can lick my BALLS
    Tom Kagan teaches _ing __un and bigotry?
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    TOM KAGAN, OPEN ME, THE MKT ARE COMING FOR YOU ! ARE YOU MAN ENOUGH TO MEET ?
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    World Dominator 'Kagan' in plot to lie about real Kung Fu and Martial Arts
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    Here's a great pic of how far Lennox's knee was hyper extended.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sifu Rudy Abel
    "Just what makes a pure grappler think he can survive with an experienced striker. Especially if that striker isn't following any particular rule set and is well aware of what the grapplers strategies are".

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    Shark loves that kneebar.

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    Ouch.

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    Wow, that pic is scary.

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    awesome pic.
    In our gym, unless we are super comfortable with our rolling partner, we normally stear clear of kneebars and heel hooks. Straight ankle locks are bad, but there are only a few guys who i will even position a heel hook with, and still never cranking them. By the time it hurts enough for you to tap, you already did damage. I am a white belt in bjj and a black belt in tapping out really fucking fast.

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    OUCH!!

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    I Ducked Out on a Gong Sau
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    damn. I should not have looked at that picture.

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    When a BJJ blackbelt latches on to your leg, you should tap and fight another day rather than risk a serious or career ending knee injury.

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