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  1. saman is offline

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    Quote Originally Posted by Errant108
    Those fuckers only have me listed as chodan.
    Did you pay your master to submit your new ranks? Go ask. I suspect it can be easy pocket $$ for some less than scrupulous masters
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    Quote Originally Posted by saman
    Did you pay your master to submit your new ranks? Go ask. I suspect it can be easy pocket $$ for some less than scrupulous masters
    Gee, I've never heard of this before.
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    Posted On:
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    Quote Originally Posted by saman
    Did you pay your master to submit your new ranks? Go ask. I suspect it can be easy pocket $$ for some less than scrupulous masters
    Saman please stop. Go read some posts by Errant108 when he initially joined. Pretty much anything new you think you are telling him or Omega is basically rehashed.


    You are coming off kind of dickish right now.
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    It's cool. I know my money got pocketed. Twice. It's one of the reasons why I left and now train in Buddhist temple.
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    My two cents worth on this:
    here is my 4th Dan from KKW:
    http://www.sungjado.org/images/4th%2...sample_kkw.jpg

    Here is my 1st Dan KKW:
    http://www.sungjado.org/1stkukiwon.html

    There is a definite difference in theese and the one shown in en earlier post.

    George
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    Quote Originally Posted by sungjado
    My two cents worth on this:
    here is my 4th Dan from KKW:
    http://www.sungjado.org/images/4th%2...sample_kkw.jpg

    Here is my 1st Dan KKW:
    http://www.sungjado.org/1stkukiwon.html

    There is a definite difference in theese and the one shown in en earlier post.

    George

    You're right, and all of our's look like your certificates. The earlier posts showed certificates that lots of masters give out after the exchange of large sums of money. Poor guys got their panties in a knot when I pointed that out earlier.
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    Quote Originally Posted by saman
    exchange of large sums of money. Poor guys got their panties in a knot when I pointed that out earlier.
    No you got your panties twisted.

    I know because I have the envelope, from the Kukkiwon, from Korea, that arrived at my dojang. Inside this envelope were the certificates. The envelope and the plastic dan rank cards, as well as the certificates enclosed matched those shown to me by a grandmaster who had warned me about the high rate of fake certificates. They also match all the ones brought to me by the recent Korean black belt interns that we use from Yong-In University.
    Genuine certificates, even the old style ones that they quit issuing a number of years ago, do not look like the one the guy posted. You can buy those by the package from Sang Moo Sa martial arts supply. $0.75 each. Lots of people give certificates like the one shown as "black belt" certificates. That doesn't mean that the Kukkiwon was involved in their testing or becoming a black belt or anything else. You can certainly be a black belt of all levels without being certified in that rank by the WTF. It is very political in many ways. My schools, being unwilling to have students believe that there is any implied Dan certification (until that person meets the criteria and we apply for the certification), do not use cheesy **** like the certificate shown. We have large, professionally printed certificates stating your rank. Kids who pass a black belt test can't receive Dan rank from the Kukkiwon anyway - they are IL Poom, or EE Poom etc. until they reach the age at which they can apply for Dan rank.
    And legit Kukkiwon certificates look NOTHING like this. I don't have a scanner hooked up to scan one of mine, but Askari is showing one of of the examples of the kind that some people try to pass off as a Kukkiwon certificate and proof of rank. You know, there are lots of people who are 4th or 5th degree blackbelts, have done the classes and passed the tests who are only certified as a 1st or 2nd Dan by the WTF/Kukkiwon. You (or some legit master you have paid) can't just tell them you are a 5th degree and get that Dan rank/ certification. It goes in order, no rank jumping etc. with the time-in-grade requirements in effect.

    Pretty much everyone else answered with a few sentences. You ranted. Askari was implying what you decided to rant about, that many of the certs are a dime a dozen.

    Not all.

    You decided to freak and have a hissy fit.
  8. Progressive is offline

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    Quote Originally Posted by DSL
    It seems new to Taekwondo as well (spelling in style field).

    You might check:
    http://www.koreataekwondo.org
    if you read korean that is.

    Otherwise:
    http://www.kukkiwon.or.kr/english/index.jsp

    There's a link on the bottom right that says 'Check for Poom/Dan', that's what you're looking for.
    hmmmm... i typed in my info, and nothing came back lol.

    sexy. guess i'm a fake dan holder. rock on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Progressive
    hmmmm... i typed in my info, and nothing came back lol.

    sexy. guess i'm a fake dan holder. rock on.
    Well mine came up which only means one thing.

    You suck.

    Don't take it personally, most people do suck.

    There are many ways not to suck but in this case the suckage is very extreme.

    One day if you choose not to suck you may rise to my higher level of being but until then...

    You suck.:emo:
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    Quote Originally Posted by Omega
    Well mine came up which only means one thing.

    You suck.

    Don't take it personally, most people do suck.

    There are many ways not to suck but in this case the suckage is very extreme.

    One day if you choose not to suck you may rise to my higher level of being but until then...

    You suck.:emo:
    extreme, lower level suckage FOR THE WIN!!!:qcheerlea
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