List of Kukkiwon Master Dans? And Certification process

[DerAuslander]

friggin cell phones.

"Omega, do not troll the KMA forum. We all know that TKD is better than kung fu."

[Omega Supreme]

Errant if you mean by trolling I'm calling somebody out telling them they're being misleading then fine. I'll be a little more blunt and a little clearer then fine:

And legit Kukkiwon certificates look NOTHING like this. I don't have a scanner hooked up to scan one of mine, but Askari is showing one of of the examples of the kind that some people try to pass off as a Kukkiwon certificate and proof of rank.

What makes your certificate correct. I'm a little dismayed. I have to go back to my folder where I keep my certificates but that's how my certificate looks and I am certified.

[DerAuslander]

Omega,

Adjust your sarcasmometer;P

[Omega Supreme]

I'm not being sarcastic errant. I'm sorry if it's coming off that way. I'm100% serious.

[DerAuslander]

I know.

I was the one being sarcastic.

[EternalRage]

i dont think mine looks like that either and i looked up my name on the website and it was there so i gotz teh reel certificate. i think i remember mine not having color on it, cant remember its at my parents house halfway across teh country

[saman]

Errant if you mean by trolling I'm calling somebody out telling them they're being misleading then fine. I'll be a little more blunt and a little clearer then fine:




What makes your certificate correct. I'm a little dismayed. I have to go back to my folder where I keep my certificates but that's how my certificate looks and I am certified.

I know because I have the envelope, from the Kukkiwon, from Korea, that arrived at my dojang. Inside this envelope were the certificates. The envelope and the plastic dan rank cards, as well as the certificates enclosed matched those shown to me by a grandmaster who had warned me about the high rate of fake certificates. They also match all the ones brought to me by the recent Korean black belt interns that we use from Yong-In University.
Genuine certificates, even the old style ones that they quit issuing a number of years ago, do not look like the one the guy posted. You can buy those by the package from Sang Moo Sa martial arts supply. $0.75 each. Lots of people give certificates like the one shown as "black belt" certificates. That doesn't mean that the Kukkiwon was involved in their testing or becoming a black belt or anything else. You can certainly be a black belt of all levels without being certified in that rank by the WTF. It is very political in many ways. My schools, being unwilling to have students believe that there is any implied Dan certification (until that person meets the criteria and we apply for the certification), do not use cheesy **** like the certificate shown. We have large, professionally printed certificates stating your rank. Kids who pass a black belt test can't receive Dan rank from the Kukkiwon anyway - they are IL Poom, or EE Poom etc. until they reach the age at which they can apply for Dan rank.

[DerAuslander]

Those fuckers only have me listed as chodan.

[ToUnderstand]

wtf is a chodan?

[DSL]

It's in between the balls and the anus.





That, and a first degree black belt. (Called Shodan in Japanese, Chodan in Korean)