11/18/2003 10:56am, #61
It didn't help, yet it wasn't its death nell either.
And no, you don't need to mutilate your hands to get hand conditioning.
11/18/2003 11:18am, #62Originally posted by Greg
So you are saying that single finger strikes will work without conditioning? More than likely you will just break your finger.
I’ve been to open competitions where the kung fu people were a joke trying to poke people they were fighting constantly, with no effect whatsoever, it was hilarious if it was not so sad. Even the TKD people would wipe the floor with them.
I can see two finger strikes working to the eyes, groin and throat only.
I am not a big fan of finger strikes, I would not try to poke people constantly.
11/18/2003 11:30am, #63
Okay. Good. Some people actually think that.
As to the finger strikes thing. Whether or not you feel pain in your finger isn't going to prevent it from breaking.Normally, I'd say I was grappling, but I was taking down and mounting people, and JFS has kindly informed us that takedowns and being mounted are neither grappling nor anti grappling, so I'm not sure what the **** I was doing. Maybe schroedinger's sparring, where it's neither grappling nor anti-grappling until somoene observes it and collapses the waveform, and then I RNC a cat to death.----fatherdog
11/18/2003 11:34am, #64
I did iron palm (with canvas bags) but never to the extreme extent that was done in the past where people lost their finger nails etc. I would not use finger strikes.
However one can understand what the styles of the past were trying to achieve with regards to pressure point striking combined with amazingly conditioned fingers that could cause real damage. Naturally I am talking about Dim Mak but in a way I don’t want to use that term since it has been so misused and exploited.
11/18/2003 12:01pm, #65
I did not suffer any bad effects from iron palm training. I know that this kind of traing was taught wrong on purpose to individuals in the past, with the intent on having them mutilate their hands or die.
I blocked a kick with a finger once. The block was good, but my finger was fucked up!“We are surrounded by warships and don’t have time to talk. Please pray for us.” — One Somali Pirate.
11/18/2003 3:10pm, #66
I've seen demos of CMA people from China standing on one finger, balanced
i would not want to get poked by him...
11/18/2003 3:37pm, #67
Iron Palm, Iron Vest, Muscle Restructure, poison hand...who knows? Not this guy (points at mirror)I've seen them done, I've tested their mettle (iron vest anyways) strange stuff i don't fully understand.Secret moves such as hitting a thing with your hand and hitting a thing with your leg have been stolen and degenerated by arts like karate, boxing, muay-thai, Kung-fu, and basketball. -Epicurious
I for one welcome our new Ninja overlords.
I figure fighting a group of chunners would be like water torture, its not the force as such, just the constant trickle of chain punches wearing down your sanity. -The Juggernoob
11/18/2003 6:16pm, #68
Whats this obsession with finger pokes?
11/18/2003 7:09pm, #69
Maybe people like to pick their noises???Ghost of Charles Dickens
11/18/2003 8:34pm, #70