It didn't take long for Kung Fu to win in the cage

**OZZ** · Posted On: 3/31/2008 9:56am

Nice to see Le get the victory, especially over a guy like Frank Shamrock.
Why Shamrock didn't try harder for a takedown..who knows. It seemed to me that he wanted to try and beat Le at his own game, he was doing a a lot of jabbering and even invited Le to try and mount him when he got knocked over that one time, but Le instead let him get to his feet.
Apparently, Le does have something of a wrestling background, so he should have at least minimal takedown defensive skills. We know from his other fights that he is not lacking in offensive takedown skills and he has mastered the sorts of throws you see in Sanshou/Sanda competition. ..the jury is still out on this one I think. He got lucky on that one where Shamrock ended up behind him after he tried to spin away, very lucky.
The side kick he seems to favor so much is delivered with good speed, but not enough power to send his opponents back very far. Someone will make him pay for that, eventually.
All in all, a bit of a surprise and a nice one.

**Domite** · Posted On: 3/31/2008 10:35am

Originally Posted by Kintanon

Hendo would beat Le down without spilling his beer. Henderson by KO at :45 of round 1.

I doubt it, but I guess we will never know for sure. Problem is, I don't even know any middle weights outside of UFC. Who's next for Cung?

**hoodedmonk** · Posted On: 3/31/2008 10:50am

Originally Posted by Domite

I doubt it, but I guess we will never know for sure. Problem is, I don't even know any middle weights outside of UFC. Who's next for Cung?

How about Dennis Kang?
:shock:

**The Question** · Posted On: 3/31/2008 10:52am

Cung Le vs Anderson Silva in a Strikeforce/UFC clash?

Hell yeah?

**Domite** · Posted On: 3/31/2008 11:06am

I'd love to see it, but given the UFC's usual stance on cross promotional events, I don't see it happening. They won't even let Randy fight Fedor.

**Hedgehogey** · Posted On: 3/31/2008 11:56am

Originally Posted by Wounded Ronin

Back when I was in college I knew a Vietnamese fellow who had studied something that was very similar to kungfu but which had Vietnamese culturla origins or components.

TVMA:

I studied three years under Quoc Dung in College Park MD. Characteristics of TVMA are:

-Low but rapid stepping "slidey" stances.

-Heavy use of elbows, knees, low kicks. Palms and such cribbed from the chinese. I can't emphasize how much TVMA uses elbows to solve every single one of your personal problems.

-diagonal movements

-contrastingly, there are really only three kinds of kick: variations of thai roundhouses, thrust kicks, and that strange back-donkey kick thing where you kick them in the nuts when they're behind you

Think of muay thai with the life sucked out of it and you get an idea.

Viet Vo Dao isn't really a TVMA. Think of those amazing new patchwork systems that everyone decided to make between 1950-1988 or so, with a nationalist overlay. Only about 10-25% could be considered old style VMA