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  1. bobyclumsyninja is offline
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    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    Van Clief is the fucking man....what a great attitude.

    If you're a master, and you're not in a wheelchair or on crutches, you should be out there! Bill, Joe, Benny! You guys are missing a great experience!

    .... And I'll tell you something else for certain: until they do step into the Octagon themselves, they are in no position to criticize anyone. When it comes to the UFC, there are only two categories of fighters: those who speak from experience, and those who speak from ignorance.
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     Style: MMA, BJJ, CMD, TKD, FMA

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    Quote Originally Posted by Holy Moment
    Bill Wallace doesn't qualify for retard strength anymore. He's still retarded, don't get me wrong, but past the age of 35 and you only qualify for old man strength. And I doubt he's gotten it.
    Actually, I went to a workout with him last summer, the guy was in phenomenal shape (titanium hip and two titanium knees). His stand-up stuff is good, he's got good boxing from what I saw. But most of his 'stuff' is geared towards point or kickboxing style (no surprise).

    He seemed pretty open-minded about things, maybe the article just caught him on a bad day, or they might have edited it to show what they wanted... or he could just be bitter. No idea.

    If he comes out again this year I'll see if I can sit down and bs with him on it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Holy Moment
    I read in Clyde Gentry's "No Holds Barred" book that the UFC staff was astounded by how many anti-UFC articles Bill Wallace was putting out there and how fast he got them out there after his night as a commentator. He's been hating on the UFC for years, but possibly at different intervals. I've read BB articles where he's talked about the UFC in a rather neutral tone; perhaps his rantings are self serving?

    By the way, I like this old interview with Ron Van Clief, taken right after he fought Gracie in UFC 4. He talks about how all the old kickboxers were hating on the UFC and were too worried about their rep to compete. After reading this, I have to say Van Clief rules compared to Bill Wallace:

    http://www.mawn.net/ki9.htm
    Judging from that interview,

    that ladies and gentleman is a true "master"
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    Quote Originally Posted by variance
    Judging from that interview,

    that ladies and gentleman is a true "master"
    I remember watching a documentary* on him at the time - he struck me as a very reasonable, nice man. Millions of miles away from most up-their-own arse drama queen TMA'ers, of course.




    * Actually a clip from Channel 4's Badass TV, a show in the mid-90s co-hosted by Ice T.
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     Style: Kickboxing, Boxing, BJJ

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    Mwahh, mwahh, mwahh. Bill Wallace is so two-faced in regards to MMA that's it not even funny. One second he's praising it, the next he's bashing it.

    It's also funny (and stupid) that half of Black Belt's MMA issues articles were anti-MMA.
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    He could have a point about kicking on the foam though, is anyone here good at kicking and tried different surfaces to find out?

    Thing is... most dojos tend to train on padded floors anyway so you'd think you'd be right at home...
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    I loved his artical years ago titled "Don't kick to the head unless your Bill Wallice." By Bill Wallice.
    When You absolutely have to hide a body...try Alaska.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bobyclumsyninja
    Bill was a great karate point and full contact fighter...but would get superpwned now or then, by even a moderately decent mma fighter.

    Things have evolved....
    Maybe I've missed something important about Wallace. But I've seen a clip from a match where he stood on his right leg and did something that looked like lame bitch-slapping with his right foot. (Also note that he had something that looked like slippers or crocs on his feet.) Now, it doesn't take much skill to kick at his supporting leg. So my questions are:

    1) Was kicks against the legs forbidden?

    2) Has Wallace ever kicked with his right leg?

    3) What was those disgusting things he had on his feet?
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    Disregard the previous post. This is better:

    Maybe I've missed something important about Wallace. But I've seen a clip from a match where he stood on his right leg and did something that looked like lame bitch-slapping with his right foot. (Also note that he had something that looked like slippers or crocs on his feet.) Now, it doesn't take much skill to kick at his supporting leg. So my questions are:

    1) Was kicks against the legs forbidden?

    2) Has Wallace ever kicked with his right leg?

    3) Had Wallace a swivel in his supporting legs, or did he only fight retards that couldn't find out a way to circumvent his center line?

    4) What was those disgusting things he had on his feet?
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