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  1. Rubberduck is offline
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    Or is Wallace bitching about not seeing fancy multiple kicks? I donīt know, I was in last two Fight Festivals here, and saw spinning kicks, jump kicks, one match was decided by high roundhouse ko. Heard the smack up to where I was sitting.
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    I may be wrong, but I'm pretty sure Wallace wrestled all through high school and he was a gym coach at some college in the south.

    This isn't the first time Wallace has been off the wall- he once wrote an article about how the airline security wouldn't put him in a position to fend off hijackers because he had artificial hips. No one asked him, but he was telling them, "I used to be a krotty champ, put me in the danger seat!" And they're looking at him like he's nuts. Oh well, he used to be the man, now he's like Tommy Lee Jones in No Country for Old Men. Sad.
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    Quote Originally Posted by new2bjj
    I may be wrong, but I'm pretty sure Wallace wrestled all through high school and he was a gym coach at some college in the south.
    Then that makes it worse.

    http://www.fightingmaster.com/legends/wallace/index.htm
    http://www.superfoot.com/aboutbill.asp
    Well, this may be where people are getting the knee injury story.
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    This kind of thing really infuriates me. More so because I know there's nothing I can do about it. The worst part (already mentioned) is that the whole "that's not true martial arts" schtick was (and still is by some) said about kickboxing too. So, I'll say it again... What a tool.
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    One of my professors is with Austin Society of Karate. They are super huge fans and supporters of Wallace. He makes regular appearances for seminars and tournaments for them. My prof asked if I'd like to check out a class, which I did because brownie points are cool. I also went to watch a tournament held out in West Lake. Reading the comments and makes seeeing what his "students" practice here in Austin make sense. I understand that he was supposed to be a badass back in the day, but the people who are claiming a lineage with Wallace practice a near no-contact style. There was lots of emphasis on form, and, "Oh, I could have hit you" but little on fighting. They stopped fights if a competitor made significant contact. His comments seem to be in line with the philosophy that I saw here locally.
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    Quote Originally Posted by oldman34
    I think it was a hip inujry. He had it replaced.
    He had hip replacement later, as did Chuck Norris, but he hurt his knee when he was in service practicing Judo.
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    Just as a side note for anyone that cares, Teila Tuli is also known as Taylor Wiley or Takamishu.
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    Mr. Wallace now has his own entry on Bullshido.org:

    http://www.bullshido.org/Bill_Wallace

    Feel free to edit/update/add to.
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    Quote Originally Posted by It is Fake
    No, you can't compare the two. There is a huge difference between throws and being able to go to the ground and GnP or submit someone.
    That's why I put the word "situationally" in there.

    Maybe you're right, but remember, when UFC started most people didn't think you could even do kicks (aside from leg shots), let alone a kick to someone's head without getting destroyed. Nowadays we even see things like axe kicks.

    I'm not suggesting we'll ever see people dancing on one leg rapid-firing tons of kicks, but a quick 1-2 shot, one to move the person's guard and the 2nd to clock him? I think it's a possibility, though I'm not pretending to be an expert on what works/doesn't in mma. Time will tell I guess.
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    You still can't compare the two. If you aren't worried about getting swept you can take the chance of executing higher (height) and dangerous ( Jumping/Flying/kicks). Even throws are reset and you can start over in KB matches that allow them.

    It is a whole different ball game when a kick can be used to get you on the ground and the fight continues.

    Two different situations with two different outcomes.

    Yes, I watched early UFC live. People get knocked out with kicks.
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