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    He trained under Herb Perez?

    Oh, that'll be easy to verify.

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    [QUOTE=blackburntagb]

    But their basic technique is so r and sloppy that they are not as effective in those areas as they could be. i.e. if they trained punches like a boxer, or kicks like a TKD practitioner, then said MMA fighters could be SO much more effective, and it would make the sport more appealing to audiences.



    How is a punch that knocks a guy out ineffective? One of the main problems with TMA is the tendency to favor form over substance. They focus their training more on throwing a kick or punch that looks good than throwing a kick or punch that hurts. You can see this in videos of Wallace's fighting. Consider these stats:

    Bill Wallace 13 KO's.

    Chuck Liddell 13 KO's.
    Cro Cop 13 KO's.
    Rampage 13 KO's.
    Bas Rutten 12 KO's
    Jeremy Horn 19 KO's
    Matt Hughes 14 KO's
    Tim Sylvia 16 KO's
    Anderson Silva 12 KO's
    Wanderlei Silva 21 KO's.

    True, you have to factor in the difference in gloves. But that is offset by the fact that there's so much grappling in MMA, which reduces the opportunity to strike. So who has the more effective striking? I'll go with the MMA fighters.
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    You also have to look at total number of overall fights as well. Wallace's KO percentage was quite a bit lower than several of those guys.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kintanon
    You also have to look at total number of overall fights as well. Wallace's KO percentage was quite a bit lower than several of those guys.

    Yes, that's true as well.

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    So I take it tagwhatever isnt going to pony up the proof of 7 undefeated fights in a cage?

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    The magic Eightball says "No". And just for the record: Anderson Silva, GSP, Nogueira, Rampage, and BJ Penn are all sloppy fools with boring fighting styles? Ummm.....

    Although as a redneck trailer trash brawler, I will be proud to accept all of the above into my ethnic group.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oldman34
    So I take it tagwhatever isnt going to pony up the proof of 7 undefeated fights in a cage?
    Fights which he won by KO via front leg chambered roundhouse kick to the head, no less!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teh El Macho
    The Undead Gods of the Interweebz demand the bloody sacrifice of a virgin and the permaban of blackburntardliar (to be done in no particular order.)
    I don't know, the sacrifice part is a bit of a tall order... howsabout a double-meat Whataburger with cheese and a $20 gift certificate to Pottery Barn?

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    Didn't MaverickZ win an MMA fight with a chambered lead leg TKD kick to the head?

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