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    Heh, I guess at the end of the day I have never really liked BB mag. I stopped buying them ages ago when every single cover had some Master Doobee of somewhere claiming to be all power in some traditional system from someplace some thousands of years old. I see it really aimed at the TMA market and Bill Wallace is writing to those people to reassure them they are "technically" superior so dont worry about the "new fad" is pretty much what I would have expected of the magazine from my earlier experiences.
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    I heard that Benny was supposed to fight Toshio Fujiwara, but Benny lost in some qualifying matches to some Thais and as a result the fight never happened.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Fake Macoy
    I heard that Benny was supposed to fight Toshio Fujiwara, but Benny lost in some qualifying matches to some Thais and as a result the fight never happened.
    YOU sir are MISINFORMED and WRONG.

    Benny is undefeated*

    Those were ruled no-contest.
    Those dirty thai people used cheating dishonourable tactics like clinching and knees.
    and the gloves were bigger than normal* and there was no weigh in.

    clearly as we all know, thai people are very muscular people.
    He must have outweighed benny by like 20lb of pure muscle to put him down.

    Benny's record and legend is in no way fabricated and is 100% authentic.

    his true factual record is 56-1-0. read em an weep.

    this man is an international legend.

    In the December 1998 issue of Black Belt Magazine (pages 33-34), Floyd Burk wrote: "Urquidez was so 'bad' that he could go to any country on earth, fight anybody he was paired up with according to their rules - and beat the living daylights out of them Thai boxing-style leg whips and elbows and knees strikes, made it impossible for urquidez's opponents to plan an effective stragedy against him. They tried, but not a single one could do it."
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    Quote Originally Posted by NoMan
    Wasn't just Rick Roufus, Benny Uriquedez (sp?) and Don Wilson got SMASHED by much smaller Thai fighters, though both claim, (and it is true), that they were exhibition bouts and the smashing doesn't count. (Also modified Thai rules if I remember those fights correctly). Roufus had some of the best combos and was excellent at integrating kicks and punches.

    Which is technically true, but if you get smashed in an exhibition bout against an unknown fighter giving up 20 - 30 lbs., God save you if you step into the ring against a prime fighter in your weight class going all out. The way that a Thai fighter would have gone after Bill Wallace's lame back leg would have gotten him killed.
    The Rick Roufus vs. Leg Kicks vid is the one I posted 2-3 above yours. Couldn't figure out how to embed it, so you have to click on the link. It's worth it though, Rick and the commentators eat a big 'ole slice of humble pie.
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    There all just bitter men.

    Funny thing is though, I read the Ron Von Clief interview, and now respect him more then any of the others. Those guys only competed in what they knew. Theres nothing wrong with that. They just didn't have all of the combat sports available to them at the time like we do now. They fought in some of the earliest kickboxing matches in America. They'd still be legends in my mind if they stayed in the game and were true martial artists, learning and not being upset about their reputations.

    Thats why Chuck Norris is so cool. He had some pretty good kickboxing. But he also saw BJJ as a great martial art. He didn't get mad because it could defeat his kickboxing. He was happy to find another martial art that he coul learn and that would help him whup ass.
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    Just saw Roufus v Thai person. Good match, havent finished it yet, but the first round showed me that the Thai was not ready for that kind of boxing but Roufus was not ready for those kicks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GIJoe6186
    Just saw Roufus v Thai person. Good match, havent finished it yet, but the first round showed me that the Thai was not ready for that kind of boxing but Roufus was not ready for those kicks.
    The real jet, Benny would have whooped him. Roufus just couldn't get the job done.
    but what you don't know is that the thai fighter was beaten. he just didn't know it himself.


    Quote Originally Posted by Benny Urquidez Interview
    Benny Urquidez: As far as fighting Narongnoi, I take nothing from him. I beat him fair and square and with no problem. Here is the problem with Thai fighters: even when you beat the Thai's, they are not convinced you have beat them. They never admit that anybody can beat them. They have been beaten though they still do not admit they have lost. It is their mentality and the way they think. It is not their education or lack of it. There is no life for them after the ring. That is all they do for a living. They walk and talk and sleep and dream fighting day in and day out. They don't go outside the camp. To them their is no life after the ring.
    also Thai people rig fights even ones not in their country.

    Quote Originally Posted by Benny the legend!
    Benny Urquidez: Yeah!? Where as for me I do it as a sport. They are constantly saying that I lost and they can beat me, and they have beaten me or I have cheated and I say, "Look you can say anything you want." I'm not saying I am a superman or I do not cry, bleed or hurt. But as far as fighting I have never been beaten or knocked out. I have been knocked down but never knocked out. I will give you two instances. They say I lost with this other Thai guy (Prayout Sittiboonlert) in Japan on August 2nd, 1978. We were giving a five round exhibition. After it was over with, the next thing I know is that I heard he beat me. I said what do you mean he beat me? We did a five round exhibition. There was no weigh in. There were no rule stipulations to make the bout legitimate. The second time was with Billy "Jack" Jackson in the U.S.A. with him saying he beat me. They told me a five round exhibition and then it went seven rounds. Towards the end of the show I told my brother in the corner, "Forget it, let me go out and knock this character out." In the seventh round I go out and I almost put this guys lights out, and then the sanctioning body says because I swept him and several other excuses, they fouled me points and then they said I lost. I said "What? How do you lose an exhibition?"
    can't trust those shifty asians.
    remember pearl harbor.

    and rules? pshhh the jet doesn't believe in "rules"
    except for elbows, clinch and knees.

    Quote Originally Posted by Benny OG Master Gangsta Martial artist fo sho
    Mike Miles: What is your opinion about Kickboxing (allowing kicks to the legs)?

    Benny Urquidez: To me I am a strong believer in the street that there can be no rules. When you can not continue, the fight is over with. That is self-defense. As far as the ring is concerned, there are rules you have to go by and we have to find a happy medium for all.

    Mike Miles: You state that the Thais are no longer using elbows in their fights, yet most Thai Boxing masters are frowning down on the present sport for attempting to do this. They see the art now becoming "handicapped Muay Thai".

    Benny Urquidez: In Muay Thai you have to take the elbows out because the public does not want to see that. The knees are not bad at all as long as you do not grab the neck and clinch. Then it starts to look like it is wrestling. People do not want to see that. Knees are fine as long as you do not clinch.
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    Your a horrible troll and its just annoying. Its never funny.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GIJoe6186
    Just saw Roufus v Thai person. Good match, havent finished it yet, but the first round showed me that the Thai was not ready for that kind of boxing but Roufus was not ready for those kicks.
    and Roufus loses...
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    Benny U could probably beat Variance.
    There's no choice but to confront you, to engage you, to erase you. I've gone to great lengths to expand my threshold of pain. I will use my mistakes against you. There's no other choice.
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