You think I'm being too harsh on this guy?

**Tom Kagan** · Posted On: 3/26/2008 2:35pm

Originally Posted by Omega the Merciless

Supposedly he's in CA even though his IP says he's in Michigan. I'm not sure how that works.

If "CA = California", then it could be true if he's going through proxies to post and the forum software over there doesn't pick this up. (AOL does this a lot.)

However, if "CA = Canada", then it wouldn't be uncommon, especially if he lives southwest of Toronto and the IP is in or around Detroit.

Originally Posted by The Question

Suicide is never funny.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xf-aCg9uchY

***Omega Supreme*** · Posted On: 3/26/2008 2:58pm

California. I knew it was possible but I thought it would have to be somewhere in the Western part of the U.S.

**syberia** · Posted On: 3/26/2008 9:24pm

Originally Posted by Errant108

I want brownies!!!

... Send me your credit card details and I'll make it happen.

**Snake Plissken** · Posted On: 3/27/2008 8:49am

Originally Posted by Omega the Merciless

California. I knew it was possible but I thought it would have to be somewhere in the Western part of the U.S.

You mean ~~Taxifornia~~ California isn't an empire unto its own?

**Khun Kao** · Posted On: 3/28/2008 7:27am

It is definitely *possible*. The Muay Thai fight scene in California (if that is where he is really residing) is more active than just about any other place in the country. They regularly have sanctioned bouts and smokers.

But like you, I suspect it's embellished to include non-MuayThai bouts, at the very least, if not outright lies. I also agree that even though Omega's original comment can be interpreted as an accusation of lying, if he were a real fighter he would have something to back his claims up that he would be able to readily point to and say, "No, I'm not making this up, I fought on X, Y, & Z events, won "this" or "that" tournament", etc....

Even if he were unable to confirm each and every fight, if he could at least confirm a couple of his most recent matches it would go a long way to silencing any questions about his credibility. I mean, c'mon! This is the age of YouTube.... You can't tell me that he's fought approximately 25 bouts in the last 10 years and there is NOTHING on the internet we can reference....

Heck, 8 of my fights were in the early 90's, and 7 of them are available to be viewed on YouTube.

***Omega Supreme*** · Posted On: 3/28/2008 9:42am

Originally Posted by Khun Kao

It is definitely *possible*. The Muay Thai fight scene in California (if that is where he is really residing) is more active than just about any other place in the country. They regularly have sanctioned bouts and smokers.

Um no, trust me on this one.

But like you, I suspect it's embellished to include non-MuayThai bouts, at the very least, if not outright lies. I also agree that even though Omega's original comment can be interpreted as an accusation of lying, if he were a real fighter he would have something to back his claims up that he would be able to readily point to and say, "No, I'm not making this up, I fought on X, Y, & Z events, won "this" or "that" tournament", etc....

Hell I would've been happy if he just said they were smoker/amateur matches. That would've clarified it for the board.

Even if he were unable to confirm each and every fight, if he could at least confirm a couple of his most recent matches it would go a long way to silencing any questions about his credibility. I mean, c'mon! This is the age of YouTube.... You can't tell me that he's fought approximately 25 bouts in the last 10 years and there is NOTHING on the internet we can reference....

Exactly. I fought pro and amateur over 11 years ago (well I had a san shou fight 8 years ago), and I can't produce videos anymore, they were ruined, stolen or taped over (UFC 78 was good fight.....damn I suck). But I can produce my belt, the video cases, witnesses who were there and if people still didn't want to believe...well life goes on but I wouldn't go crazy like this guy did.

Heck, 8 of my fights were in the early 90's, and 7 of them are available to be viewed on YouTube.[/QUOTE]

**bobyclumsyninja** · Posted On: 3/28/2008 10:26am

I have but one fight, which I lost, horribly dehydrated, and talentless....yet I'll still link it with a fervor if questioned about whether it happened (or would anyway, no one cares)

It read like, inside, he was really pissed he burned up an active account on a bs lie. Looks like he uses it, I wonder if he'll get a new one now. Maybe we'll get a bullshito iz meaniez thread out of it, or he'll join the ranks of the Midknighttiger.00000187 and start trolling our youtube vids.

Fight me on ice!

**Khun Kao** · Posted On: 3/28/2008 1:03pm

It is definitely *possible*. The Muay Thai fight scene in California (if that is where he is really residing) is more active than just about any other place in the country. They regularly have sanctioned bouts and smokers.

Um no, trust me on this one.

? I'm not sure what you mean? Do you mean "no", he is definitely full of it, or "no", there aren't regular matches in CA? My sources tell me that California has a very active Muay Thai fight scene.... I know there seems to be "smokers" about every weekend (ok, I'm sure I'm the one exaggerating there, but it sure seems that way). ...and I know there are sanctioned matches, as I've helped refer promoters to my contacts within certain sanctioning bodies.....

***Omega Supreme*** · Posted On: 3/28/2008 1:35pm

Originally Posted by Khun Kao

It is definitely *possible*. The Muay Thai fight scene in California (if that is where he is really residing) is more active than just about any other place in the country. They regularly have sanctioned bouts and smokers.

Um no, trust me on this one.

? I'm not sure what you mean? Do you mean "no", he is definitely full of it, or "no", there aren't regular matches in CA? My sources tell me that California has a very active Muay Thai fight scene.... I know there seems to be "smokers" about every weekend (ok, I'm sure I'm the one exaggerating there, but it sure seems that way). ...and I know there are sanctioned matches, as I've helped refer promoters to my contacts within certain sanctioning bodies.....

a. No, he's not from California originally
b. pro and amateur licenses are required to compete in sanctioned matches CA.

Remember for the record I never said it wasn't possible, just that there was something wrong with the whole scenario.