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    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    As another way of looking at it though, if I was interested in competing in MMA, I'd much rather get instruction from someone who has been in the octagon 10 times, even if he lost all 10 times, than from someone who has never competed at that level.

    There are a lot of factors that go into winning and losing in MMA that don't necessarily have anything to do with the strength of your technique.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Airman Kai
    Yah, but a losing record doesn't make you a good trainer, either.

    I'm not looking for inspirational examples of how some guys overcome lack of skill by harnessing their natural ability to teach. I'm talking about, if an active MMA fighter is losing consistently, does he even know his **** well enough to teach it?
    A trainer really only needs enough skill to demonstrate well. For an MMA trainer, I would also look at his record in striking and grappling as independant sports. Jean Machado could teach either of us plenty of MMA useful technique, but he's 0-1 in MMA.

    What time of life a guy came into MMA is a big factor, as well. Realistically, if someone doesn't "discover" mma by about age 35 (and I'm being nice there) they're going to have to be a phenom to win a ton of fights.


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    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    I'd only be wary if the guys record was 0-0-0. As long as he has more skills then I do, and has been where I want to go, I'll sit down and learn from him.
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