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  1. hpr is offline
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    Knock-off Cthulhu

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Kagan
    Don't you think you should be concerned with the win-loss record of the students instead?
    quoted for truth.
    Curiosity killed the cat. But damn it had a blast.
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    AK: Giving new meaning to the word "Unfair."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cracky
    This thread belongs in YMAS. It's fucking ridiculous.

    Airman Kai has failed on this thread. He also failed on many of his e-comics. How many times can he fail before he should be laughed off the forum?
    You've set that bar pretty high. I'm not sure there IS a number.



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    AK: Giving new meaning to the word "Unfair."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Kagan
    Don't you think you should be concerned with the win-loss record of the students instead?
    Ah...

    of course.

    And I've got my answer.



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    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    Ok...but seriously, if you couldn't figure it out on your own...WTF, man?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Kagan
    Don't you think you should be concerned with the win-loss record of the students instead?
    http://www.sherdog.com/fightfinder/f...?FighterID=230

    Marc Laimon?

    http://www.sherdog.com/fightfinder/f...FighterID=1230

    BTW I know for a fact those records are not correct.
    Last edited by Omega; 3/24/2008 2:46pm at .
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    Using western boxing as an example, Freddie Roach was a decent journeyman fighter and a hell of a trainer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brandon
    Fight record is in no way an indication of ability to instruct.
    Quoted for truth.
  8. Cullion is offline
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    Everybody was Kung Fu fighting

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    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    If the guy is just starting as a coach, then you can't judge him by his students.

    In that case, it depends not just on his win-loss ratio, but the total number of fights and at what level.

    In such a case, If I wanted to learn how to box, I'd have no qualms about being coached by some grizzled dude with a 35-65 professional record. A lot of those 65 fights might have been against people who went on to be serious title contenders, or happened after an injury, or as age started to get the better of him.

    In fact, he'd probably have more to teach me than a 22 year old who'd only had 4 amateur fights and won all of them.
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    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    It's a good question. I think in the absence of strong evidence to the contrary, such as producing a string of great fighters, excellent industry contacts, etc. most people here would be very wary of a coach with a poor fighting record.

    Hell, how many people alone shouted they'd never train at Scarola BJJ after Joey's showing on TUF? "What could this guy teach me?!" And that was after he was vouched for as an excellent instructor by no less than Matt Sera.

    Until you've built up some rep, your fight record's pretty much your resume as far as coaching is concerned. The question as to whether that's a good indicator to use is a good one.

    I think the one thing we can agree on is that a poor fight record is better than a nonexistent one.

    Oh, also

    Quote Originally Posted by Airman Kai
    You've set that bar pretty high. I'm not sure there IS a number.
    Reversal!
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    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    Quote Originally Posted by AK
    You've set that bar pretty high. I'm not sure there IS a number.
    I missed this earlier but I don't start many threads and HAVE been laughed off the forum, more than once.
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