Looking for ex Jung SuWon / Tae Yun Kim students (Part 3)

**clarehoare** · Posted On: 4/02/2008 12:19pm

There is a lot of evidence that numerology was a very important thing to kim.

**bemused** · Posted On: 4/02/2008 2:15pm

Originally Posted by clarehoare

There is a lot of evidence that numerology was a very important thing to kim.

I'm interested in your evidence. Please do tell.

TYK had some common superstitions about certain numbers. Many Eastern cultures fear the number 4 the way many Western cultures fear the number 13. TYK didn't like the number 4 but didn't always avoid it. The Jung SuWon student database didn't assign the number 666 to any student because TYK had a typical Christian superstition about the "number of the beast" from the Book of Revelation.

When it came to labeling students, I think names mattered to TYK more than numbers. A previous post mentioned that TYK changed some students' names after they had declared bankruptcy. I know about most of the name changes and two of the bankruptcies, but I never made the connection while in COL. She may have changed other students' names to hide the reason behind some of the name changes. Aside from the bankruptcy issue, I think she changed names to give COL students new identities as part of separating them from their families and pre-cult lives.

**bemused** · Posted On: 4/02/2008 2:46pm

Originally Posted by HerLesson

In my opinion, the piranha is a sadist and shs is a masochist since she talks about him like he is crap and he continues to worship her (guess he has no pride). Although from what is posted, the whole COL crew must be masochist, they seem to like the abuse from an old plastic prostitute (as previously posted).

Don Henley's lyrics to "Victim of Love" describe a woman drawn to "dangerous boys," but they also describe COL's predicament: "...walkin' the wire, pain and desire/ Looking for love in between."

I can empathize with that predicament because I've been there. I can also see how it doesn't make sense to outsiders.

I'll admit I'm curious about what TYK said about SHS. TYK rarely criticized the instructors to COL, either in front of them or behind their backs.

**Shadow Dancer** · Posted On: 4/02/2008 9:01pm

Hi Carol. I'm sure I was there when you were, but I honestly cannot figure out who you are. Oh well. Nice to see you here though!

Clare... the thing with scotty and scientology happened one day when I stopped by to get a progress update on the KDMS system (the forerunner to the LMS). He showed me an article about the scientologists and how they seemed to have a never ending list of class offerings and how the price went up stratospherically. We didn't talk about it much, but I think we can gauge his feelings from the way COL programs started to morph and go up in price. As far as the value of the classes... I think it is safe to say that never has so much been given for the gain of so little. What do the COL'ons think they have gained? It's easy to point to what they've lost, though.

Scotty really is the lynchpin of her world. Without him, she would soon have absolutely nothing. He is the only one with enough business acumen to keep the companies running.

**clarehoare** · Posted On: 4/02/2008 9:14pm

Originally Posted by bemused

I'm interested in your evidence. Please do tell...

I have some documents, I can't remember the source - between Kim and SE.. There is multiple docs with drawings by kim of SE and herself with numbers written all over their faces.

There was obviously innuendo to these numbers, but they are unknown to me.

Some of the drawings are a little demented with SE wearing a diaper, and then instructors writing strange comments towards SE on them. But it is clear the drawings were made by kim.

**bemused** · Posted On: 4/02/2008 9:31pm

SE wearing a diaper? TYK might have drawn it when SE first joined and was a "spiritual baby." TYK and SE were married briefly, so this strikes me as a bit kinky.

**bemused** · Posted On: 4/02/2008 9:33pm

I would like TYK and COL to know that I "have an ability to sense and know higher truth." This is an authentic message from the Universe delivered to me personally via a fortune cookie, so it must be true.

**Shadow Dancer** · Posted On: 4/02/2008 9:39pm

Originally Posted by bemused

SE wearing a diaper? TYK might have drawn it when SE first joined and was a "spiritual baby." TYK and SE were married briefly, so this strikes me as a bit kinky.

Do you remember some of the exercises she had us do during Self-Discovery Weekends? One time she had us think back to the time when we were babies and had us all crawl around in the dirt yowling, and cooing.

**bemused** · Posted On: 4/02/2008 9:45pm

Originally Posted by Shadow Dancer

Do you remember some of the exercises she had us do during Self-Discovery Weekends? One time she had us think back to the time when we were babies and had us all crawl around in the dirt yowling, and cooing.

I don't remember that exercise, but I remember a similar one in which we all crawled around pretending to be dogs. A few of us lifted one leg and pretended to leave our mark. Fortunately, no one tried to sniff anyone else's crotch. Most people seemed to be having fun, but there was an obvious element of humiliation.

**Kathy Kim** · Posted On: 4/02/2008 9:45pm

Originally Posted by bemused

SE wearing a diaper? TYK might have drawn it when SE first joined and was a "spiritual baby." TYK and SE were married briefly, so this strikes me as a bit kinky.

I would think she would draw something like that after he left. How else to try to save face and admit that he DIDN'T want her and it was OVER. It was his choice. I wonder if she tore of up the hundreds and hundreds of pictures she had taken of him? She admired his body so much. He was tall like she liked men to be, plus he wasn't a "small" man like the other senior instuctors who have no height. I was at col1 when shs was doing lots of photos in the house of him. She oiled his body and he did several different poses and only had shorts on. He did have a good body, I'll give him that. A true athlete. Thank God he got away from her.

I only bring up the height issue because she told me that shs was too short. She wouldn't want to have his child, not that she could apparently, because it would be too short. Sorry scott, those where her words...I have never had an issue with heigth. I believe a person is as tall as their values.