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    Ballistic Punching, Systema's newest invention?


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    Yeah, because a floppy arm with no real body rotation is going to be that much harder than a proper punch with a body behind it.

    Plus ol' 'hit me' guy is probably just hamming it up for the camera.

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    Not a "latest invention", just a recent way of describing/marketing one of the standard Systema striking dynamics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by socratic
    Yeah, because a floppy arm with no real body rotation is going to be that much harder than a proper punch with a body behind it.

    Plus ol' 'hit me' guy is probably just hamming it up for the camera.
    You'd be amazed at how hard that floppy arm can hit. You would be amazed.

    The other guy isn't hamming it up, but the action of the fall can be deceptive; it's not so much that the sheer power of the strike is knocking him off his feet, but rather that it hurts like a sonofabitch. Your abs and thoracic diaphragm muscles instantly cramp up and that jerks your upper body forward; in combination with the momentum of the strike, people hit in this way often lose balance and stagger back. The fall happens because your core muscles are still cramping so you can't straighten up to regain your balance during the stagger.

    The cramp effect is also why the fall guy takes deep breaths and flexes his torso to recover. He's literally stretching the muscles so he can breathe and stand upright again.

    There is a subtle difference in the way the "fall guy" preps for the karateman's punch, though, as opposed to the Riazanov's punch. Given time to prep., the fall guy subtly flinches his gut away from the reverse punches, which are obviously fairly strong, meaning that they are mostly deflected off to either side, or fall slightly short. Riazanov doesn't give him time to prep, which is part of the point; the "ballistic strike" doesn't require a dramatic wind-up or chamber. Thus, without the split-second warning to deflect the punch, the fall guy takes the full brunt of it.

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    i though this thread was about punching people in the crotch

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    Can anyone explain what Val was doing when he hit the blackbelt with his palm, then moved it downwards in midair, and appeared to make the blackbelt guy feel better?

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    Vulcan homeopathic medicine my friend, Vulcan homepathic medicine....

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    The palm slap is a quick way to help relax the muscles affected by the punch, if the guy being punched doesn't know how to stretch/breathe it out. At a guess, the up-down gesture after the slap was just sympathetic movement, as in "now breathe in, now breathe out".

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    I bet if the only people you fight are your own flunkies who are deeply afflicted with Stockholm Syndrome that **** works like a charm.

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    How much will you bet?

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