Brutal Head Slam Knock Out
Ouch. Gotta love them slam knock outs.
The knock out is on 2:14 btw
Undeniably effective, but IMO the risk of breaking someone's neck is just too great with this sort of move.
There is a video forum, look it up.
They hang on at their own risk.
Why did he not even let go as his face was about to hit the ground? Silly.
Originally Posted by Goju - joe
The guys who got slammed was an idiot. Friggin release your legs and put your arms out in front of you to slap. He had plenty of time to think about that. He just looked like a bad TKD fighter who was randomly trying to use ground techniques that he'd seen on TV, and had no sense of what to actually do.
Hate to invoke "teh str33ts" here, but in my doorman days, headfirsting a guy (varying the strength of the slam depending on the result you wanted) was an effective move against some guy trying to hang on--a pretty good anti-grapple if you had the size, position, leverage and power to carry it off. I looked upon it as sort-of grapple-striking, as you had to grip the idiot well enough to direct him into curb/vehicle/mailbox/powerpole/whatever, but it was what he was colliding with that did the striking. As I recall, it became a bit more common among doormen who were primarily hitters when the whole AIDS scare was first starting--kinda stupid, since hep had already been around and is far more transmissible than HIV.
A lot of throws can, with some modification, be headfirsters: judo's hipthrow, the o-goshi, need not end with you hanging onto the guy until he comes down nicely on his back. Once you have him hoisted, you can drop the shoulder closest to his head while shooting the opposite-side leg back. You go down a bit sideways; he'll hit the ground headfirst, with both his weight and yours on top. Also from the hoisted position, you can sprawl, making sure his head is lower than any part of you when it hits the sidewalk. Or, if sacrifices ain't your thing, just hoist him up and let him go head-first. He'll either post his arms out to save his face (and likely injure his arms posting from that height), or maybe try to hang onto you. If he does, just dropslam him as per the first couple of examples above, and he'll kiss the concrete.
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Although, the third option is, he goes hard with the throw and over rotates you (though unlikely).
That was, if I remember correctly, one concern--the other being if, after hoisting the bastard, you didn't go right into the drop and he was fast enough (sober enough) to reposition for some kind of choke. Love judo, but any throw where you even sort-of turn your back to the opponent...well, it has to be a hard, fast, perfectly-timed nage. Or the idiot has to be drunk (one of the perks of being a doorman: their belligerence may be up--if they're that type of drunk--as well as their resistance to pain...but their reflexes and general coordination, well...).
Originally Posted by Cracky
Anyway, as the saying goes, there are guys who can take punches to the head all day and laugh it off (longterm brain damage notwithstanding), but there aren't many who can get up so quickly after being dumped on their heads. The sidewalk (dumpster, hydrant, whatever) is the doorman's friend...
Last edited by Vieux Normand; 3/18/2008 10:39pm at .