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  1. Ajamil is offline
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jadonblade
    I think fatigue is an important factor, often try fatigue myself on purpose either prior or during a lesson or training and then try to do the techniques. My logic is that its when your are fatigued and tired as hell that technique will really matter. As it will also be harder to get the technique right. No point training assuming you will never get tired. I think it promotes some of that "mental conditioning" a few guys mentioned.
    Ironically, my TKD instructor used to say the exact same thing. Take that as you will.
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    ****, sorry dude, I moved your post by accident: http://www.bullshido.net/forums/show...73&postcount=9

    Quote Originally Posted by Satori
    I experienced this issue last night during training. It's humiliating.

    I'm getting fairly close to my Blue Belt (I'll probably sand bag a bit longer), and I've been called a very technical grappler (for my rank) by my instructor. I'm a little guy (5'8", 150 lbs), so I have to be.

    For the longest time I avoided cardio because, quite frankly, it's boring. I have a very busy job and lifestyle, and spending a half hour on a treadmill is the last thing I want to do...especially when I'm paying for BJJ.

    I now realize that I need to get my act together and do cardio.

    During free rolling, I blew my wad on a similarly skilled guy that I roll with all the time. Afterwards, I rolled with a brand new, first class beginner. No previous grappling experience aside from "wrestling with my brother". I was put with this guy specifically because I have more experience.

    I got manhandled simply because I had absolutely no gas and no muscular endurance to apply any techniques...even high percentage, basic techniques that work all the time failed against a big, gotard newbie because my conditioning sucks.

    Definitely a humiliating, eye opening experience.
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    A lot of instructors due teach their students while fatigued, it seems to be controversial with a lot of new people saying it's a bad idea, I don't really know what to believe. I'm tempted to be moderate and train both fresh and tired?
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    Teaching new thing while fatigued is stupid. But drilling/practicing moves people know already, while fatigued, makes more sense.
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    When I was doing CSW the warm up was brutal then you did 3 X4 minute rounds with pad work with your partner calling combo's

    first4 standing, next 4 ground and pound last 4 standing.

    By the last 1 1/2 minute your arms and legs felt like rubber.

    The instructor would often say to push as hard as you can at this point, that this last 1 1/2 minutes is the championship round where fights are won or lost.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Goju - Joe
    The instructor would often say to push as hard as you can at this point, that this last 1 1/2 minutes is the championship round where fights are won or lost.
    I push my students pretty hard in class. Towards the end, when everybody is gassed, I'll do a drill to finish them off, give them a few seconds to catch their breath and then push them a little more just for that reason. In addition to the physical benefits, mental focus and discipline when you're whipped can help you maintain a little longer when you're beat. It can make a difference.

    He who wears out first in a fight, will usually lose the fight.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tyciol
    A lot of instructors due teach their students while fatigued, it seems to be controversial with a lot of new people saying it's a bad idea, I don't really know what to believe. I'm tempted to be moderate and train both fresh and tired?
    you dont teach things when your students are tired, you practice them. unless you are an idiot.
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