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  1. Yohan is offline

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    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    Going to have to go with skill on this one. Especially 100% skill vs. 100% conditioning.
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    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    You cant knock somebody out in 30 seconds with NO conditioning, unless all you mean by conditioning is cardio, but either way it's a dumb question, conditioning and skill go hand in hand.
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    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    In a sport setting and barring exceptions. Good conditioning and poor technique alone can get you farther than good technique and poor conditioning.
    Sumus extra manum tuam.
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    Posted On:
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    For me, conditioning is what allows you to use your skill. Gassing out sucks. And I can always notice a huge difference in my performance during randori/rolling based on how tired/gassed I am. When fresh, I can hang with guys that clean my clock when it's the end of the night. Working on cardio/conditioning on the side helps my game on the mat.
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    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    Quote Originally Posted by mrblackmagic
    In a sport setting and barring exceptions. Good conditioning and poor technique alone can get you farther than good technique and poor conditioning.
    Dead on.
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    What you need, according to Gene Lebell: Technique, Conditioning, and Pain Tolerance.
    "Judo is a study of techniques with which you may kill if you wish to kill, injure if you wish to injure, subdue if you wish to subdue, and, when attacked, defend yourself" - Jigoro Kano (1889)
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    "The judoist has no time to allow himself a margin for error, especially in a situation upon which his or another person's very life depends...."
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    Posted On:
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     Style: Jiu-jitsu & HEMA

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    Matt Thornton said, & I'm paraphrasing:

    Aggression & conditioning make up 75% of what it is to be a good fighter. Skill & intellegence are the other 25%.

    Sadly, this equation doen't work in my favor.
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    Posted On:
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    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    skill can win a fight against an untrained or much less skilled opponent but when fighting someone near your own skill level you will get destroyed without conditioning
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    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    In low level fights (amateur and low pro shows) I'd say conditioning is the most important factor.

    Now Im assuming that one fighter has great skill but little conditioning while the other has some skill but tons of conditioning.

    Conditioning and aggressiveness win fights IMO more then just skill. But thats why u need them all.
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    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    i havent won any fights because im a good fighter, ive won them because i keep coming forward when the other guy has emptied his tank.
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