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  1. Teh El Macho is offline
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    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    Upa: How in the world are you going to get to that position???

    Hedge: He does gets to my nerves with his 'pro-western' antics. I'm sure he could have found a better way to explain his adherence to wrestling and pugilism. But nope. Add to that his disdain for what he calls 'inferior karate two-upper-knuckle' punching and that punching with the lower three knuckles is always superior. ****. NO.
    Read this for flexibility and injury prevention, this, this and this for supplementation, this on grip conditioning, and this on staph. New: On strenght standards, relationships and structural balance. Shoulder problems? Read this.

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    New To Weight Training? Get the StrongLifts 5x5 program and Rippetoe's "Starting Strength, 2nd Ed". Wanna build muscle/gain weight? Check this article. My review on Tactical Nutrition here.

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    The street argument is retarded. BJJ is so much overkill for the street that its ridiculous. Unless you're the idiot that picks a fight with the high school wrestling team, barring knife or gun play, the opponent shouldn't make it past double leg + ground and pound - Osiris
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    3/07/2008 5:46pm

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    The way I'm envisioning it is that I'll take the back and first work a standard harness and then underhook their other arm and work from there.

    I don't have the detail worked out too well but I'm hopeful. Alas, if tonight ends up having attendance like Wednesday, I'll be the scrub.
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    3/07/2008 6:40pm

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    Oh ****, this is going to be a long night for some poor white belt soul :evil6:
    Read this for flexibility and injury prevention, this, this and this for supplementation, this on grip conditioning, and this on staph. New: On strenght standards, relationships and structural balance. Shoulder problems? Read this.

    My crapuous vlog and my blog of training, stuff and crap. NEW: Me, Mrs. Macho and our newborn baby.

    New To Weight Training? Get the StrongLifts 5x5 program and Rippetoe's "Starting Strength, 2nd Ed". Wanna build muscle/gain weight? Check this article. My review on Tactical Nutrition here.

    t-nation - Dissecting the deadlift. Anatomy and Muscle Balancing Videos.

    The street argument is retarded. BJJ is so much overkill for the street that its ridiculous. Unless you're the idiot that picks a fight with the high school wrestling team, barring knife or gun play, the opponent shouldn't make it past double leg + ground and pound - Osiris
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    Posted On:
    3/07/2008 6:54pm

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    Full nelson-...full nelson with the legs, I guess

    Anyway, the guy seems like a complete fucking douche who uses ridiculous power moves, and there are way, WAY better sources for any technique he might do well.
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    3/07/2008 7:57pm

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    While the nelson is there, he's also attacking the elbows.

    Edit: Nevermind, he's not I thought the guys arms were palm up but they're palm down.
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    Posted On:
    3/07/2008 8:09pm

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    Yes, it's gayer than you thought, but to set up what you're suggesting, I'd still use the regular full nelson to set it up.
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    3/07/2008 8:13pm

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    I've got about 20 minutes to figure out how to make this work before heading out. The biggest problem that I see is that I'm going to have to get both legs up virtually simultaneously or else the opponent will be able to turn into me. I suspect I'm going to dislocate my own hips.
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    Quote Originally Posted by UpaLumpa
    I've got about 20 minutes to figure out how to make this work before heading out. The biggest problem that I see is that I'm going to have to get both legs up virtually simultaneously or else the opponent will be able to turn into me. I suspect I'm going to dislocate my own hips.

    Well, no dice. I tried to start off with a compliant partner. Started from his back and couldn't figure out how to properly scoot back while keeping the arms and also keeping them from escaping an arm and turning. Cracky is probably right, I might have been able to work it off of a full nelson.
  9. pauli is offline

    i keep tryin to spar, but nothin happens!

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    i'm thinking it might start as a turtle attack, and involve some remarkably dangerous gravity induced movement to get to the end position.

    but i've got terrible spatial reasoning.
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    Posted On:
    3/08/2008 2:25pm

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    So I tried it with a compliant partner this morning after rounds. You can hit it off of a full nelson but you have to slide distally along their arms before kicking over to circle their arms with your legs and there are opportunities for them to turn during that, and you can tap them earlier than that anyway. Not to mention the bazillion easier submissions that don't require you to create that much distance.

    In short, and this is obvious just from the picture, retarded.
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