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  1. Phrost is offline
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     Guy Who Pays the Bills and Gets the Death Threats Style: MMA (Retired)

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    Mark Hatmaker

    Discussion thread for Mark Hatmaker. If you would like to add a comment, click the Post Reply button
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    I e-mailed Mr. Hatmaker and invited him to the thread. ( full disclosure,I am an advocate of his materail)
    16 years till retirement.
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     Guy Who Pays the Bills and Gets the Death Threats Style: MMA (Retired)

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    Sure thing. I'm only interested in getting the true story of anything sorted out. I honestly don't know much about the guy.
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    LOL, WUT?
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    Hey Herb,
    Thanks for the kind words, gentlemanly support, and the invite. Please forgive me if I do not participate; I keep the extent of my on-line activity to my personal correspondence (with folks such as yourself who take the time to contact me directly). I find there are only so many hours in the day and once all is said and done the limits work well for me and my family.
    I wish all who support well and thank them for their generosity of opinion.
    Those who feel con, I wish them success in whatever path they choose.
    And to those on the fence, I hope they find whatever fits their needs no matter the source.
    Thank you again for your kindness sir; my best to you and your son!
    Mark Hatmaker

    ----- Original Message -----
    From: Herbert Smith
    To: Mark Hatmaker
    Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2008 8:53 PM
    Subject: Re: hello


    Hello sir,

    The folks at Bullshido.com have started a disscussion thread for you. on the site you have a mix of detractors, as well as supporters(I proudly count myself as an advocate of your material)
    Would you considering coming to the forum?
    16 years till retirement.
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     Guy Who Pays the Bills and Gets the Death Threats Style: MMA (Retired)

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    It would be helpful if we could get more information on there than we currently have. Right now it's just images.
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    The problem with this is that there is not much information about his background at all beyond what's given in Paladin Press in this page.

    I'm with milwauke_cop regarding Hatmaker's material (but only for his takedown material and SOME, not all, of his striking stuff.)

    There is a review of his books by Matt Thornton in sherdog:

    http://www.sherdog.net/forums/archiv.../t-319362.html

    And this is Hatmaker's professional website and his boxingwrestling based system: http://www.extremeselfprotection.com/

    All in all, Hatmaker seems to be blending pugilism with greco and freestyle wrestling as well as providing services as a fighter coach. There is nothing much about his credentials at all.

    Based on his response to m_cop's e-mail, I think the best way to get those questions answered would be by politely asking him, not to participate in an online forum, but to answer a Q&A about his background, his methods, and how he has come to develop his stuff. Better yet if someone could agree to a phone interview with him.
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    New topic: Mark Hatmaker: NAZI?

    Looking at the book as a series, what you'll notice is that Hatmaker almost entirely avoids including any martial art teaching from Asia. The NHBF series, as well as the rest of his material, are based on "Western Empiricism," that is, European and early American fighting styles.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Omega's Bitch
    I am going to try very hard this evening to do this to a scrawny white belt. After that a non-scrawny white belt. IF that works, I'll try it on a real person.
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    That's so many shades of awesome.
    It's like a reverse double-arm bar of insanity.
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