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    Djimbe,
    He didn't offer anything like a comprehensive review. So all I have to go on is the cover.


    9Chambers,
    Stop being silly. That last post is exactly why I would never listen to any recommendation you make.
    Normally, I'd say I was grappling, but I was taking down and mounting people, and JFS has kindly informed us that takedowns and being mounted are neither grappling nor anti grappling, so I'm not sure what the **** I was doing. Maybe schroedinger's sparring, where it's neither grappling nor anti-grappling until somoene observes it and collapses the waveform, and then I RNC a cat to death.----fatherdog

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    Chin- na CAN be applied to ground fighting IF you KNOW who to ground fight from the start.

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    ronin:

    who or how? or both?

    i have a chin-na instructional dvd. i didn't get much from it at all. so good luck.
    the guy did make some amusing noises though.

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    Chin-na has NO special locks or techniques, you will find every lock or chock from ANY jujutsu style in chin-na and vice-versa. So if the locks from jujutsu work in ground fighting, so does chin-na, since they are the same. What I said was IF you KNOW how to ground fight you CAN use chin-na, not if you know chin-na you KNOW how to ground fight, big difference.

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    the one serious criticism i would offer, with my very limited knowledge of chin-na, is that the many of the takedowns put the throwers knees into what i would consider awkward and exaggerated positions. maybe i am overly conscious of my knees, but for my body type and previous history of injuries executing these throw didn't seem worth the risk.

    an example: while executing what i would call an arm drag type throw, the thrower would not let his feet turn more than a minimal amount and would then sink with his legs folded under him.

    if anyone know more about chin-na and this is not the norm, please correct me.

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    Can you post a pic of that?

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    SIEZING is the most neglected part of training in MMA
    Oh dear, what do you mean by this? Do you mean clinch work? If so I think the likes of Randy Couture have got that down.

    Oh and I know this is terribly cynical of me and that I should just accept their word but where is the footage of them using this Chin Na in actual competition.

    Most books that teach siezing are going to do it Aikido style
    again i must say WTF!! get a greco or freestyle wrestling book and have fun SIEZING and slamming!!
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    post a pic...

    uh not sure how to do that from a dvd, but i would be more than happy to mail you the dvd.

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    well , Like I said , Im going to go see it myself , and if I like it , Ill keep it , if I dont , I wont . Skummer made the exact same Reccomendation , so I really dont see the Issue here . If I wanted "A Comprehensive Review" I could read any of the Dozens I have already found online , or look at Skummer's Topic .

    Ronin :

    There are more locks inQinna than in the Japanese systems , and the Japanese argue that its because there are only so many that they found useful , and the Chinese argue that its because its all that they would show the Japanese ... no , im not getting into that one .

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    There may be more VARIATIONS on locks, but not more Locks per se, how many ways are there to lock a wrist? elbow? thats what I meant.

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