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  1. Adnan22 is offline

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    Posted On:
    2/29/2008 11:07am

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    Swedish Bullshido

    Hello guys, my first post here. I dont know if you deal with Bullshido outside the US but i found out about a guy who claims to teach swedish policeforces in unarmed and armed combat. He also has a webpage where he sells his own MA system that he calls "ESDS".

    http://www.taido.se/esds.htm

    This is what he claims to be his credentials:

    Slavo Godziks background

    Shotokan Karate (4) years and Judo (1 year). Has since 1991 been training martialarts as a senior student with Master Erle Montaigue (Yan Lu Chan Taiji, Dim Mak (BS alarm?) and Qi Gong). He is also a memeber of World Taiji Boxing Association (WTBA). Since 1996 he is a student for Master James McNeil (Splashing Hands, Qi Gong, Irong Hand and Acupressure massage)

    I have contacted the Swedish policeforce to ask about this guy. He seems very fishy to me, and in Sweden people generaly have no clue about the possibility that many of these "grandmasters" are frauds, i would not even be surprised if he fooled the Swedish police force.......he would not be the first to do so. Anyone from Sweden or anywhere willing to help me check this guy out?


    http://www.ipdta.org.uk/joomla/

    An english website about what this guy claims to teach.....
    Last edited by Adnan22; 2/29/2008 11:16am at . Reason: English website
  2. Sam Browning is offline

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    Posted On:
    2/29/2008 11:48am

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    Hi Adnan we are always interested in Bullshido outside the US. And we even have some swedish members!
  3. nifoc is offline

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    Posted On:
    2/29/2008 5:51pm


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    I have some friends in the police, I'll ask if they know about this guy, or if they can ask around.

    It seems like the usual "I'll make you a warrior overnight 'cause my system is scientific"-type of ****.

    Have you been in contact with anyone about this guy?
  4. Adnan22 is offline

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    Posted On:
    3/01/2008 4:29am

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    Like i wrote i sent an email to the swedish police........but the chance of them replying or even caring is very little i suppouse. One of my friends online found an old fighter magasine and found an article on this guy. It was the usual crap-talking but in this article he mentioned that he trained with Montaique and someone i never heard of before "Stuart Le Marsney", he did not mention James McNeil in this article.

    He said he had a Taiji club in Uddevalla.
  5. RobAgle is offline

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    Posted On:
    3/01/2008 6:23am

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    One of the people he claims to have trained under is a moron. Erle Montaigue has a wealth of useless RBSD vids on Youtube.

    If you search here, you will find him mentioned in several threads.

    Below is one of his more enlightening videos. The dog is by far the most dangerous thing in the video, except for maybe Erle's "chi cry"... It's a very very powerfull "Whoooooomp!"

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DoiLzA5KKUE

    There are more than 100 videos. All equally ridiculous. I don't know about the guy you want to investigate, but if he is teaching this kind of nonsense to people that might actually need to depend on it, i'd say a serious investigation is in order.
  6. Adnan22 is offline

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    Posted On:
    3/01/2008 6:42am

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    Quote Originally Posted by RobAgle
    One of the people he claims to have trained under is a moron. Erle Montaigue has a wealth of useless RBSD vids on Youtube.

    If you search here, you will find him mentioned in several threads.

    Below is one of his more enlightening videos. The dog is by far the most dangerous thing in the video, except for maybe Erle's "chi cry"... It's a very very powerfull "Whoooooomp!"

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DoiLzA5KKUE

    There are more than 100 videos. All equally ridiculous. I don't know about the guy you want to investigate, but if he is teaching this kind of nonsense to people that might actually need to depend on it, i'd say a serious investigation is in order.
    Nice find friend. Even worse he has developed his own martial art based on what he learned from these "masters" using "TEH SCIENCE!!" and "DIM MAK" to help a normal nobody survive on the streets. I will translate his site, when i find the time........but basically what it comes down to is that his martial arts style is based on "The bodys natural defense-reactions".

    He has a "dojo" in sweden, where he teaches this deadly scientific art. Maybe he learned SAFTA from master John Hess :-)
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    Posted On:
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    Have you gone to the club to check him out?
  8. Adnan22 is offline

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    3/05/2008 3:31am

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    The place where his club is located, is quite far away from me.........
  9. Father Dagon is offline

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    Posted On:
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     Style: None, but looking.

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    :glasses7: "International Police Defence Tactics Association (IPDTA)" :glasses7:

    Sad thing that it's hosted on a taido-site. Yeah, taido is mostly acrobatics and gymnastics, but acrobatics and gymnastics is perfectly legitimate forms of training.

    Some years ago, there was those loons from Yellow Bamboo. We had really fun with them over at kampsport.se. They actually videotaped the demonstrations. But as the premises was so (unnaturally) strict, then they could always claim cheat. (The atttacker shall run from a distance of 15 meters, while screaming of real anger and punch the defender in the head.)
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    Posted On:
    3/05/2008 7:28am


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    Swedish Joesondo???
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