2/29/2008 2:29pm, #81Originally Posted by Omega the Merciless
Most pro MMA fighters also train with asymmetrical gear. For example, to train takedowns: attacker will wear little gloves & headgear, defender will wear 16oz boxing gloves & shinguards. This setup gives the attacker some protection while practicing takedowns against someone who's striking nearly full blast.
If they didn't do this sort of thing they wouldn't be able to go as hard as often, thus they'd be less well prepared in the cage/ring. It's really that simple...“Most people do not do, but take refuge in theory and talk, thinking that they will become good in this way” -- Aristotle, Nicomachean Ethics, II.4
2/29/2008 3:08pm, #82
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So pretty much what I'm getting out of this is that more gear means more options. For instance, with the headgear with face cage for ground and pound... you can practice your G&P on a bag on the floor or, hell, a basketball, whatever, but it won't let you practice targeting a squirming opponent trying to throw you off him.
And if you do a full-force G&P on somebody with less protection than that, you can either only do it to them once or you have a really shitty G&P. I'm honestly not a big fighter, but I'm a fan of asymmetrical drills like those Jack mentions above. It's not exactly like the real thing, but it lets you train it hard, repeatedly.
2/29/2008 3:15pm, #83Originally Posted by hpr
at the december nyc throwdown i caught a heel to the face when doing no gi grappling (he was going for an armbar from mount and accidentally smashed my face.)
if i hadn't been wearing my shock dr. mouthguard i would have lost at least 2 teeth (i know this cause 1 of them is still sore over 2 months later)
**** happens. wear your mouthguard. a little discomfort is better than a major dental bill and fake teeth for life."Face punches are an essential character building part of a martial art. You don't truly love your children unless you allow them to get punched in the face." - chi-conspiricy
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2/29/2008 3:22pm, #84Originally Posted by LThornton
Ding ding ding...we have a winner.
2/29/2008 3:25pm, #85
Originally Posted by Omega the Merciless
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2/29/2008 4:53pm, #86Originally Posted by The Question
Could be that he wanted to save up his concussions for Heath Herring. Could be that he didn't want to get cut too close to his fight. Whatever the reason, my point is that there definitely are pro fighters who do wear headgear when they train.
2/29/2008 5:07pm, #87If I have a bunch of young guys training, egos come involved, even if I tell them to keep it at 50% it escalates most of the time. Better safe than sorry and it allows them to hit harder without injury.
2/29/2008 5:18pm, #88Originally Posted by hpr
I don't tend to wear a cup because it is so uncomfortable. Plus OHIP (our medical insurance) will pay for busted nuts, but not dental.
In general.... You don't have to wear equipment all the time, but it lets you try stuff you probably wouldn't train. Being too badass for pads will limit your game.Anyone who has the power to make you believe absurdities has the power to make you commit injustices.
2/29/2008 6:36pm, #89
Last week one of our guys was wearing one of those face cages, and everyone was making fun of him, including me. I dont like headgear (obviously). He was kicked full force in the face with a shin while he was doubled over. We stopped making fun of his face cage.
You BJJ guys dont wear cups? Gross.
2/29/2008 8:18pm, #90
Yeah, not wearing a cup justifies every grappling is gay joke ever.