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  1. Cullion is offline
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    Do not **** about with weird suppliments at this stage of training. Try and eat more natural food, especially meat, fish, nuts and eggs.
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    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    Been eating a lot of "natural stuff", at first it worked great, i gained like 10 pounds in a month and a half, but i cant seem to gain more weight, and im stuck at 122 pounds since like 2 months, wich is still kinda skinny/underweight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ignitH
    Btw it's not an "after-class" problem el macho, its in the class itself, i don't get sore/or tired after doing mt, its just that sometimes i can't keep up with the class itself.
    Doesn't matter. Adding additional conditioning on top of your current training may not necessarily help you. Part of training is knowing how to 'taper' (scale down) from time to time.

    If this problem you experience in class occurs only once in a blue moon, then that's normal. But if it occurs often, the I can almost guarantee you need to scale down the frequency of training for some time. The human body needs to rest to recover and get better. Unless you have been doing this for years and have reached the top of your physical abilities, scaling down is something you will have to do from time to time. Whether this happens as part of a plan or due to other circumstances (forced by sickness, injury or exhaustion), that's up to you.

    *** just read the bodybuilding part and supplements ***

    What Cullion said.

    First, ignitH, how old are you? If you are under 22, expect to have a hard time gaining weight. it is not that uncommon among men under 21-22 to have a hard time putting on weight.

    Second, I'm sure your dad has the best intentions, but you are not a bodybuilder, nor you are training to be one.

    You can't put on weight if you do 3-4 muay thai classes, 2.5 hours each every week. No amount of supplements will do that. This will be even more true if you do additional cardiovascular/anaerobic conditioning.

    If you want to gain weight, you will have to stop training MA that much and instead lift weights and eat, both in a manner conductive for gaining size.
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    2/23/2008 7:39pm

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    Re-Thinking the idea of taking weight gainers, i realize that u guys are right, i can't expect to gain weight if im exercising practically 5 days a week and im still very young (16, im turning 17 in a couple of months). So im sticking with the natural stuff :P

    To El Macho: I have been thinking that i maybe need to learn how to "save" energy when sparring/thai pad working, as i start all-out the first minutes and i run out of gas in the last part.

    Thanks a lot for all your help guys. Really Appreciate it.
    Muchas Gracias!
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    It is possible to gain weight doing practically any amount of training of any type if you can get enough food down you and sleep enough. Calories in > calories out always eventually results in weight gain with a big enough differential and enough time.

    Look at the amount of cardio Fedor does. He has no problem keeping his weight up, despite not lifting any more. He just eats shitloads of whatever he is in the mood for. Massive appetite. Don't gorge yourself so you feel sick.

    Keep it natural and wholesome, don't go nuts and cram down junk food. Good steaks, eggs, fish, nuts, chicken etc.. Eating this way is more expensive but I've got some ideas about how you can keep the cost manageable (I'm trying to at the moment, see the paleo diet thread).
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    Quote Originally Posted by ignitH
    To El Macho: I have been thinking that i maybe need to learn how to "save" energy when sparring/thai pad working, as i start all-out the first minutes and i run out of gas in the last part.
    Just a question of technique through experience mixed with gradually improving fitness all coming together.
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    These guys are right on. Eat, rest.
    You may want to try some of the crossfit workouts to increase your anaerobic stamina.
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    2/29/2008 3:08pm

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    eat a banana great for flexibility and energy, swim, practice kicks for ten minutes straight then rest and do it again for another ten, you have to get your legs use to the lactic acid which wears them down
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