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  1. Marrt is offline
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nihonto
    It's "Body Fortress" vanilla flavored powder. Got it at Walmart. I was mixing it with water according to instructions - didn't taste bad.

    They said to use 1-2 scoops before and after workout. Took 1.5 then had lunch. About an hour later I did my usual sets of squats, press and dead-lift. By the end of that my stomach was empty. Took another 1.5 scoops. Then .... a few minutes ... rush to the throne ... hour goes by ... repeat. Ate as big a dinner as I could and am feeling ok now. But a bit nauseous still.

    FYI: I am also taking Hydroxicut and amino-acid supplements. Oh yea ... Creatine too. Been taken those for a while with no problems.
    How are you with artificial sweeteners? Acesulfame K and Sucralose are both in here. Could you be reacting to them? And maybe it's me but why the Hydroxicut?

    Is this the first time you've used whey protein (sorry if I missed that from your first post)... ? and you've not otherwise experienced lactose intolerance?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marrt
    How are you with artificial sweeteners? Acesulfame K and Sucralose are both in here. Could you be reacting to them? And maybe it's me but why the Hydroxicut?
    Never had issue with artificial sweetners. And the Hydroxicut was to cut about 5-10 lbs to get in the weight class I wanted. I will probably be stopping since I am close to where I want to be, and it has given some issue with sleep.

    Quote Originally Posted by Marrt
    Is this the first time you've used whey protein (sorry if I missed that from your first post)... ? and you've not otherwise experienced lactose intolerance?
    Never lactose intolerance, but is is the first time I've used whey protein supps.
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    Body Fortress has given me the same problems in the past.
    Try using Optinum nutritions whey protien (you can get a 10 lbs bag at bodybuilding.com for about 75 bucks) or try mixing Optinums w/BF until you run out of BF. Other good protiens are EAS,Prolab or GNC brand, Muscletech makes a good whey but its really expensive. Hope you feel better
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nihonto
    Never had issue with artificial sweetners. And the Hydroxicut was to cut about 5-10 lbs to get in the weight class I wanted. I will probably be stopping since I am close to where I want to be, and it has given some issue with sleep.

    Never lactose intolerance, but is is the first time I've used whey protein supps.
    If you've not had issues with lactose intolerance before, I'd try a different brand out (just get a small container initially) - maybe something like this -
    http://www.country-life.com/moreinfo...Product_ID=334

    Wholefoods supermarkets sell it, as does the Vitamin Shoppe. Stop your current product, give it a day, then try this and see if you have same issue. These guys make a good product, they're very focused on organics and limiting the number of artificial additives.

    But if not this, just something different from a name brand like Cytosport or BSN, AST.
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    As usual, you guys are a great help. Thanks! I will try some of those other brands and see how it goes.
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    I second Optimum Nutrition. I'm working my way through AnyWhey flavorless.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nihonto
    It's "Body Fortress" vanilla flavored powder. Got it at Walmart. I was mixing it with water according to instructions - didn't taste bad.

    They said to use 1-2 scoops before and after workout. Took 1.5 then had lunch. About an hour later I did my usual sets of squats, press and dead-lift. By the end of that my stomach was empty. Took another 1.5 scoops. Then .... a few minutes ... rush to the throne ... hour goes by ... repeat. Ate as big a dinner as I could and am feeling ok now. But a bit nauseous still.

    FYI: I am also taking Hydroxicut and amino-acid supplements. Oh yea ... Creatine too. Been taken those for a while with no problems.
    Body Fortress has 46g of protein/2 scoops. You should want to cut that in half for the time being until your body gets habituated to it. Some brands give you the gas, some others give you the ****, some don't give you anything at all.

    I'll echo the recommendation of increasing your fiber intake, and I would also recommend you eat more yogurt. I used to be a walking factory of mustard gas and other chemical weapons whenever I took 50+g of protein. That changed by eating yogurt regularly and by reducing the amount of protein taken at any given sitting. Instead of drinking a shake with 50g at one time, I drink half, then wait for 2 hours before taking the other half.

    Sometimes I still fart, but it's like a little, inocuous "blurp" thing, nothing the "BLRRRRUUUUUUPP POOP POOP POOP POOP POOP POOP BLURUBLURUBLURUPRRRRRRUUUUUUP" before I started eating yogurt.

    Give it a try, and cut the amount of protein you are taking at every sitting. You can still the same amount per day, but just break it down to smaller portions.
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    I've noticed a lot less gas and "loose stool" since I began taking a digestive enzyme complex with every meal, and when I get back to MRP's I will try it with them too. They really have made a big difference and I just use a cheaper GNC brand I believe. My IBS has improved leaps and bounds in general.
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    2/21/2008 8:27pm

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    I mentally conflated this thread's title with the title of the thread below it on "dry heaves" and thought you said you got the "Dry runs" and I thought "Holy crap, that's the most horrible thing I've ever heard of!" :)
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    Just to throw it out there, I drank 75g of protein from AnyWhey in two hours with about 48oz of fluid (brewed tea) on a totally empty stomach today and I had NO ill effects. It's a really fantastic, versatile protein. I've even baked it into brownies.

    As for the concerns over "denaturing" the protein through heating it, consider the fact that you heat eggs to eat them, and that similarly denatures the protein. The properties changed through heating whey protein have nothing to do with amino acids, which are the building blocks for muscle.
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