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    Thanks.

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    What makes a good MA? Sexy dames and plenty of 'em.

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    I think I'm going to have get that video tatood on my chest, frame by frame, with subtitles

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    My .02 cents worth for what actually make a good MA... is what you can make work for you whether it be boxing, MT, BJJ mixture of all some karate. It all depends on your approach and what you learn. Some forms like Wing Chun take time to learn but if taught properly Wing Chun in street situations let me tell you, it has saved my ass. But I have learned to use what other styles have to offer and make it work for ME. The key is finding the schools that actually teach what you need to learn and your ability to adapt that to make it work for you and avoid the Mcdojos out there

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    I never really got that matt thornton video. He says judo doesn't have advanced moves, but it has tons of sacrafice throws that are used in competition that aren't really taught to the lower belts. Same with BJJ and its million different guard variations.

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    Thanks for those Matt Thornton vids, I found that fascinating. He really puts it across perfectly - this whole "aliveness" concept is really useful

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    In Judo, all of the throws are part of the basics. All of the pins, chokes, and armbars are part of the basics. I was told (and believe) that the Shodan rank is the rank when you start to really learn Judo. At that time, you should have a pretty good knowledge of the basics and really practice to improve these basics. That is what Thornton was saying. He could have said that fancy and complicated moves are risky and low percentage but then somebody would have stood up and thrown a 570 degree spinning tornado kick at him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kultist
    I never really got that matt thornton video. He says judo doesn't have advanced moves, but it has tons of sacrafice throws that are used in competition that aren't really taught to the lower belts. Same with BJJ and its million different guard variations.
    Agree, but that stuff is more like a gadget play in football; it works when used sparingly, and couldn't really be said to be the bread-and-butter of the game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by S0meguy
    Agree, but that stuff is more like a gadget play in football; it works when used sparingly, and couldn't really be said to be the bread-and-butter of the game.
    True. Also, in a self defense situation the closed guard should work fine because non grapplers will often do something silly like try stick an arm out for support or leave their neck open.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jj77
    My .02 cents worth for what actually make a good MA... is what you can make work for you whether it be boxing, MT, BJJ mixture of all some karate. It all depends on your approach and what you learn. Some forms like Wing Chun take time to learn but if taught properly Wing Chun in street situations let me tell you, it has saved my ass. But I have learned to use what other styles have to offer and make it work for ME. The key is finding the schools that actually teach what you need to learn and your ability to adapt that to make it work for you and avoid the Mcdojos out there
    Quite so - it sounds like the WC teacher in the original post sucked hairy balls.

    There's more to WC than standing with your toes pointed in and chain punching! - although that said, I'm just going to have loads of people asking me to prove it by going NHB with a BJJ guy now ;)

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