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  1. jeff5 is offline

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    I'd say follow your doctor's advice and let it heal. Re-injuring something is a good way to have chronic pain in that area for the rest of your life, and especially when you get older. You'll be like "why is this huring me??", then remember that injury you never let heal. Its not worth it imo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cuchulain
    Yeh I know but;

    a) She's not a Kickboxer and as such doesn't know what my training involves.
    b) It really does feel ok.
    c) She didn't tell me what I wanted to hear.
    d) I'm not a poooooossssy.

    Thanks for the concern guys but I really would feel like an idiot for not training when I feel like I can.
    if you think she doesn't know what she's talking about, then go see a sports med doc.

    my opinion is that you're being an idiot (you have balls, i'll give you that though.)

    let your injury heal and listen to your doctor. i used to think like you and now at 37 years old i have a bunch of annoying old injuries that seem to come back at the worst possible times (like right now when i have the chance to train with a great sanda coach and can't cause my old injuries are coming back to haunt me and keep me out of competition.)

    but hey, i'm not telling you what you want to hear, so go ahead and ignore me. what the hell would i know?
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    Quote Originally Posted by kitterykenshin
    A - no, but she has probably seen LOTS of reinjured bones that permanently **** someone up because they didn't listen

    B- Feels OK now, but until the bones are completely set and hardened it is still brittle and weak around that area

    C - So you came to us, and we pretty much unanimously told you the same thing.

    D - Not in question at all. It's a broken leg, not a hangnail. But if you're so worried about looking like a ***** that you would risk permanent injury so nobody laughs at you then maybe.......


    And take it from some of us who have trained a long time and had and seen enough injuries to know what we're talking about. The time off from full training really sucks, but it's better than having to stop completely. And as someone already mentioned, just because you're not going full speed and competing, you don't have to just sit around on your ass all day. There is still plenty of supplemental training you can do until your leg is ready to go.
    yeah, i have to agree with kittery on this one. I am sure we have all seen tough guys training through injuries before. its not pretty when you see them spending 10 mins at the start of every class strapping up joints and doing specialist stretches just so they can get back on the mat, then they still have tomake excuses and 'sit out' anything that is going to aggravate their old war wound.

    Take the advise offered above. Lay off training for a couple of months til you get the all clear. but use the time wisely- work on your cardio(bike work should be fine, but i would avoid running), swimming, get in the weights bay and work on your body strength, even flexibility work. Then start back stronger and fitter than before.

    just ask yourself- do you want to be a tough guy now or someone who isnt in constant pain in 10 years time?

    train smart mate
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    Quote Originally Posted by kitterykenshin
    And what happens if you take a kick to that leg while the bones are still trying to reattach to each other? You could end up needing surgery, could end up with a bone chip floating around, all kinds of nasty stuff. Work through small injuries, but ALWAYS take the time for major injuries to completely heal. You want to keep training for years to come right? It's better to take a few weeks or a couple of months off now than to push it and possibly end your career years before it needs to.
    Read the part in bold again. I train with small injuries all the time, but training with a major injury like a broken bone is just stupid. You'll miss even more training if you hurt it again. Be smart now and allow your body the time it needs to heal.

    If feel like you can't wait, go see a sports doctor like Ming suggested.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ming Loyalist
    i used to think like you and now at 37 years old i have a bunch of annoying old injuries that seem to come back at the worst possible times
    Ditto. Listen to the old broken men Cuchulain, we've already made this mistake for you. Otherwise it will take you fifteen minutes to get out of bed in the morning when you get older because you have to massage your knees to get them to function properly. I'm not joking.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cuchulain
    Yeh I know but;

    a) She's not a Kickboxer and as such doesn't know what my training involves.
    b) It really does feel ok.
    c) She didn't tell me what I wanted to hear.
    d) I'm not a poooooossssy.

    Thanks for the concern guys but I really would feel like an idiot for not training when I feel like I can.
    I know, I know, I've done this before too. But I'm just telling you, eventually I learned that training injured usually leads to me getting injured a lot worse, and then I REALLY have to sit it out.
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    are you seriously considering entering a kickboxing commp in a month? with a broken fibula?

    seriously, seriously now. wait. there will be other comps. and nobody should be asking you to enter any comps while you are injured

    and if you think about this- if youre leg gets injured (again) in your next comp, and you have to take time off work and make a claim, no insurance company will pay out if they find out you had a pre-existing injury and were advised by a medical professional not to train while having your original injury.

    I know a lot of people say they wont ever claim, but if there is no money coming in..................
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    Wow, I really wasn't expecting such a 1 sided debate.

    Well I do usually take my elders advice and I do agree that people before me have made the mistakes so I don't have to.

    I'm not gonna lie, i'm still going to train but i'll make sure I avoid doing anything which could damage the leg. Which to be fair isn't too restricting, it just means I can't kick with it nor have it kicked and my footwork will be a little linear. I haven't tried any BJJ since the injury so i'll have to see about that.

    But yeh I guess i'll have to pull out of the events/comps :(

    Will it tarnish my reputation to be able to get fights if I pull out?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cuchulain
    Will it tarnish my reputation to be able to get fights if I pull out?
    Hell no

    Look how many pro level fighters don't fight if they have injuries.

    It's just not sporting. That's be like Beckham coming out to play with a broken leg - it's not what the crowd wants to see, it won't win games, and it's certainly not what's best for him
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cuchulain
    Will it tarnish my reputation to be able to get fights if I pull out?
    Who cares? A better question would be, how do you feel about limping for the rest of your life?

    If you had a torn muscle, or something minor like that, I'm sure some of us would have said go for it, but a broken bone? Oh hell no.

    I've known at least one fighter who missed a fight due to an injury, and yeah, he caught flack for it, mostly from his younger training partners. Everyone forgot about it when he won his next fight though.
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    Why is it that people choose not to listen to their doctor? Have you any idea the YEARS of hell they went through just to be able to say, with confidence, "Stay off that broken bone"?

    Seriously, listen to your damn doctor.
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