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    Quote Originally Posted by Masserby View Post
    Err, except when it propels a guy to the UFC World Championship?
    A single anomoly does not a trend make. When we start seeing more shotokan karateka as contenders in MMA, you may have something.

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    Fair point. Certainly I suspect we'll see a few more shotokaners having a go now.

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    I wouldn't hold my breathe man.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Odacon View Post
    That's the creamiest load of doublespurt I've read on these forums in a long while. Karate sucks in every part of the world. The "they suck, but our dojo is different" attitude is why karate is not a viable full contact martial art.
    Aww come on, we spar hard, train hard and compete with any style that wishes to enter ...

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    Too bad I couldn't miss this thread the second time around.

    Before I say anything else, to be clear, am I correct that people in this thread are disputing the value of the style itself and not just some people's whack training methods?

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    While not impossible to find good karate of any style there's more shti than good with the exceptions of styles like KK that have used a hard contact competition style to keep things honest

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    Yeah....because you posted clips of him going to an MMA gym for a little X-training in kickboxing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kentucky Fried Chokin View Post
    You see, Lyoto practices something called Brazilian Shotokan, which is somewhat different that Japanese Shotokan. It was developed by Lyoto's family and is refered to in Brazil as "Machida Shotokan".
    The same way Gracie Jiu-Jitsu is different from Japanese JJ. Of course, the martial arts are always altered by where they are practiced and who is practicing it. The point being is that Machida's Shotokan is as traditional as GJJ is.

    HIs stance, in my observation, is exactly like dozens of Brazilian fighters I have seen who have no karate background. His mawashi-geri is classic Muay Thai. The only thing I can really say is classic karate is his timing and positioning. He rarely, if ever just blitzs someone until they have made a mistake, which reminds me of Chuck Liddel and his Kempo. Both fighters are not exciting. Just effective.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crappler View Post
    The same way Gracie Jiu-Jitsu is different from Japanese JJ. Of course, the martial arts are always altered by where they are practiced and who is practicing it. The point being is that Machida's Shotokan is as traditional as GJJ is.
    Gracie JJ is different from Japanese JJ because its lineage comes through Judo you tard, the differences have nothing to do with nice beaches and a giant statue of Jesus...

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