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    The more I fight, the more I use TMA

    So I took Shaolin Kempo a while ago, took it for a few years. I wrestled in HS (before my kempo). After kempo I started BJJ/kickboxing and stuff. I am now 4-1 in amateur MMA. Regardless of the fact that if I want to fight I can schedule a MMA matcch, I still like to "street fight" (although we are rarely on the street, maybe house fight and bar fight are better terms?).

    I used to be all "kempo is deadly uber killer"

    Then I was all like "boxing and BJJ will own, I am ALIVE NOW!"

    Now I am like, **** I use a lot of my kempo techniques in street fights. I also use a lot of my MMA stuff. A recent fight has given me some reflection, I was hammer fisting a dudes head. I used an open hand shuto to the neck (worked real well). I used a WRIST LOCK!!!!!

    So anyone else go full circle like me? I guess since all my sparring and grappling, I am able to think better in a fight and use these "dead" techniques even though I have ever used them "alive" in practice. Pretty cool.

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    Second part:

    So I remember the argument of using your whole body to attack a joint (BJJ) being better than using a portion of your body to attack it (like my wristlock).

    I have to say using the wristlock was much better to hold this kid down the other day (after softening him up with hammer fists) because I was able to hold him down while turning all around to ensure my other friends had these other guys taken care of.

    I'll reflect a little more later on I suppose. I can't wait to fight again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LI GUY 1
    So anyone else go full circle like me?
    Somewhat.
    I think a lot of this has to do with training methods.

    Graduated resistance.

    Reviewing your training with resistance will allow you to see where techniques can be applied. Just practicing it in the air, against the pads doesn't ingrain a technique as deeply as when I need to pull it off perfectly against resistance.

    Resistance, resistance. Ohms.

    I've found where I use my Wing Chun the most is guardwork in BJJ.
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    Yeah resistance is great, but it is hard to use it with certain techniques. I haven't practiced a wristlock or shuto in years, but I believe I was able to use them because of all the alive training I had from MMA. All the MMA training allowed me to control the whole fight.

    Makes sense I suppose because if I can succesfully hit you in the chin in sparring with a punch, why wouldn't I be able to keep my hand open and aim an inch lower to the neck? I guess with the TMA techniques awareness is more useful than trying to make it an alive technique. Keeping the "safe" techniques for sparring/training and just being aware that you can punch the throat seems to work.

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    You can try crazy moves which would on complete beginners that would not work on those a bit more experienced. Most people in public are beginners. Most people in your gym have a bit more experience. So you can get away with techniques which would otherwise be punished in the gym. Kind of how a fool's mate in chess(or similar quick checkmatess) can work well against a rank beginner yet be pretty bad if someone has a bit of experience.
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    Who ever said these things don't work? Open hand strikes are much easier on the hand and mind than a punch to the face.

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    Did you slap yourself so your punches would go faster?

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    Number 1

    Stop getting in street fights, if you're goal is to go pro (and why not) you don't need the aggravation or trouble.

    Number 2

    I think your points illustrates something I have said many times before that alive training of any type will make your "too Deadly" and what not TMA techniques work better.

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    OP is right. The more I get into street fights, the more I find myself using improvised nunchaku to overcome my opponents.

    .... huh?

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    The OP should refrain of posting this kind of things.... this is BS.net.


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