UFC 81 Breaking Point - 02/02/2008 7pm PT / 10pm ET

**UpaLumpa** · Posted On: 1/31/2008 5:31pm

If you were talking about CroCop, Vanderlei or other guys, I'd agree. Nog, not so much.

**Roidie McDouchebag** · Posted On: 1/31/2008 6:24pm

Why? He looks as bad as any of them. Crocop did beat his first can in the UFC...even finished him.

**maurice** · Posted On: 1/31/2008 6:56pm

In theory, Mir can win by standing KO/TKO. His standup isn't great, but it's going to be a lot better than Lesnar's. Besides, for all we know, Lesnar could have a glass jaw.

**Roidie McDouchebag** · Posted On: 1/31/2008 7:38pm

If you want to bet on that, I'd imagine you could get some fantastic odds.

**the yellow dart** · Posted On: 1/31/2008 8:39pm

Originally Posted by Cracky McSlugHoot

If you want to bet on that, I'd imagine you could get some fantastic odds.

Did you miss the rest of the Herring fight where he dominated completely and utterly, outside of the one kick? If anything, Nog's boxing has gotten better than ever before and he probably still has all the great submission skills that he's had before.

We'll see how well Timmy does without his supplements as well ;)

**hpr** · Posted On: 2/01/2008 1:20am

Has any of the former Pride fighters looked good on their first fight in UFC? Dan Henderson fought good against Rampage, but he had previous experience.

**Gypsy Jazz** · Posted On: 2/01/2008 8:20am

Originally Posted by hpr

Has any of the former Pride fighters looked good on their first fight in UFC? Dan Henderson fought good against Rampage, but he had previous experience.

How about Rampage himself? Not an outstanding showing but he still looked good against Eastman (was it?). Also Anderson Silva for sure, though he's shown himself to be the exception and not the rule. I'd argue that Wanderlei looked decent, though not outstanding his last fight, though he's had prior cage experience. Debatable for Nog, whose hands looked sharp, but overall game seemed a bit lacking.

**the yellow dart** · Posted On: 2/01/2008 11:05am

Originally Posted by hpr

Has any of the former Pride fighters looked good on their first fight in UFC? Dan Henderson fought good against Rampage, but he had previous experience.

Gono kicked ass, Anderson kicked ass, Chonan got beat by one of the best WWs right now, CC looked good in the Kongo fight until he got smacked in the nuts repeatedly, Nog dominated Herring outside of the one kick, Rampage beat the crap out of everyone so far, and Werdum fought a crappy first fight that was made up for in an awesome second go about.

PRIDE has actually done decently for itself if I may say as much.

**Roidie McDouchebag** · Posted On: 2/01/2008 11:38am

Did you miss the rest of the Herring fight where he dominated completely and utterly, outside of the one kick? If anything, Nog's boxing has gotten better than ever before and he probably still has all the great submission skills that he's had before.

It wasn't that Nog fought well. It's that Herring is just that bad.

We'll see how well Timmy does without his supplements as well

He does fine without supplements. He's used to it.