How would a judoka fight

**RickTheCritic** · Posted On: 1/27/2008 1:12pm

After alot of research ive found the MA that fits me just right. I want to know how a judoka fights compared to a BJJ player

***Plasma*** · Posted On: 1/27/2008 1:41pm

Judo-ka : Clinch in; off balance, big throw landing on top and pin then submit

BJJ: Clinch in; Drag down to ground via leg or pulling guard, submit from back, pin or where ever you end up after pulling them to the ground.

**Shuma-Gorath** · Posted On: 1/27/2008 4:33pm

Originally Posted by Plasma

BJJ: Clinch in; Drag down to ground via leg or pulling guard, submit from back, pin or where ever you end up after pulling them to the ground.

No one pulls guard or voluntarily goes to their back in a fight.

The BJJ 101 attack plan is: Clinch, get double underhooks and bend them down or shoot for the legs, pass guard, mount and punch them until they turn over, choke them out.

Now, this is just what I would do in an ideal fight. It's grossly oversimplified to say "this is how a person from style X will fight" because it ignores everything from personal preference to instruction methods to environment.

**WorldWarCheese** · Posted On: 1/27/2008 4:41pm

A Judo player would use Judo and a BJJ player would use BJJ, but like Shuma said, every player has their own preference and generalizing is retarded.

If you really want to see what "fits you" I recommend trying a Judo class then trying a BJJ class and seeing which you prefer from actualy experience, not from what you are told on the internet.

**dwak** · Posted On: 1/27/2008 4:48pm

Originally Posted by Shuma-Gorath

No one pulls guard or voluntarily goes to their back in a fight.

well they're not supposed to, but plenty do. people do it all the time against me, yes my takedown skills are much better than your average bjj person, but still it doesn't mean they shouldn't even try it at all.

**Shuma-Gorath** · Posted On: 1/27/2008 4:56pm

Originally Posted by dwak

well they're not supposed to, but plenty do. people do it all the time against me, yes my takedown skills are much better than your average bjj person, but still it doesn't mean they shouldn't even try it at all.

Is this in class? Based on what you just set it sounds like you have training partners going to their back to negate your wrestling, not jumping guard in a MMA match or street fight.

***Plasma*** · Posted On: 1/27/2008 6:08pm

DHS requested this thread.

**Uri Shatil** · Posted On: 1/27/2008 10:35pm

First of all, it's different in different situations:

If they're standing up facing each other, a typical BJJ guy will work some crappy to decent Judo and some crappy to decent wrestling. Hell, a BJJ guy might even try to pull guard in a street fight. Pulling guard looks like this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sMB3ToJPXzM
It's a bad idea in a street fight.

On the ground, however, is when the BJJ player gets his advantage. Judo and BJJ have very similar groundfighting out of very similar positions. However, BJJers spend more time working on the ground, and the rules they compete and train under are "closer to the street."

Second of all, you have to make some massive generalizations. Specifically, BJJ has a close relationship to Mixed Martial Arts, and a typical (again, this is a massive generalization) BJJ guy will know a thing or two about striking. If you're selecting an art, that's not as big a difference, but it should be noted that in many BJJ schools they sometimes consider self defense or striking situations, as where judo tends to be much more sport oriented.

Again, I was making massive, massive generalizations.

The big difference between judo and BJJ is simply the focus of training. Judo focuses on standup grappling, and BJJ focuses on groundwork. The best thing to do, as someone recommended above, is to go to a judo class, go to a BJJ class, and decided which one suits you best.

**bob** · Posted On: 1/27/2008 11:55pm

A blue belt from my old school pulled guard in a street fight. All that happened on that occasion was that the fight completely stalled until people pulled them apart. But yeah, he was roundly ridiculed from the instructor down for a long time afterwards.