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    I love that old physical culture ****. Too bad I can't rep you for your efforts..


    Oh Wait.. Yes I can!
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    You sound like a foaming-at-the-mouth-loon out of Dr. Strangelove.
    Sometimes, we put Ricin in the Cocaine. :ninja7:

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    I anxiously await Ddlr's appearance in this thread.

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    This is amazingly awesome!

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    His breathing exercises are reminiscent of qigong.

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    Very cool.

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    Very interesting.

    I wonder what kind of real-world applicability old-school Pugilism has, beyond just a novelty? The 'chopping' blocks remind me of Karate or Kung Fu quite a bit, but I suppose if you actually taught them with some aggressive aliveness you could probably make it work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rivington
    His breathing exercises are reminiscent of qigong.
    Very common, actually. Check out the work of Hackenschmidt (same lulu page) as well as that of Strongfort and Martin "Farmer" Burns (at the Sandow website) for similar breathing exercises and the like.

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    Quote Originally Posted by socratic
    I wonder what kind of real-world applicability old-school Pugilism has, beyond just a novelty? The 'chopping' blocks remind me of Karate or Kung Fu quite a bit, but I suppose if you actually taught them with some aggressive aliveness you could probably make it work.
    "Classic Pugilism" works quite well in an SD context, particularly when combined with ground work from contemporary Wrestling such as Hackenschmidt, Burns, or Leonard. (Bearing in mind that Classic Pugilism had many throws, trips, and standing grapples - see my book: "Banned from Boxing: The forgotten grappling techniques of historic pugilism" for an in-depth study of it).

    Aside from the Kicking game, Classic Pugilism (particularly when mixed with classic wrestling) looked very similar to modern MMA. The extended distances and timing, etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lklawson
    "Classic Pugilism" works quite well in an SD context, particularly when combined with ground work from contemporary Wrestling such as Hackenschmidt, Burns, or Leonard. (Bearing in mind that Classic Pugilism had many throws, trips, and standing grapples - see my book: "Banned from Boxing: The forgotten grappling techniques of historic pugilism" for an in-depth study of it).

    Aside from the Kicking game, Classic Pugilism (particularly when mixed with classic wrestling) looked very similar to modern MMA. The extended distances and timing, etc.
    How interesting. Is it trained in the same/similar manner to modern Boxing? Ie, hitting pads, bags, sparring, etc?

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    Quote Originally Posted by socratic
    How interesting. Is it trained in the same/similar manner to modern Boxing? Ie, hitting pads, bags, sparring, etc?
    Yes. Though bag work was different. "Heavy Bags" in Classic Pugilism would be considered very very light by modern standards.

    Sparring was considered extremely important, indispensable, really. One interesting point is that, even during the Bare Knuckle period prior to the Marquis of Queensberry rules, amateur matches/training/sparring and professional practice/training sparring were often conducted with gloves, called "mufflers" or "mittens."

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