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  1. Goju - Joe is offline
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    I am a Ninja bitches!! Deal with it

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    Guilty Spark

    How much did you enjoy forcing someone to tap totally against thier will?

    The big problem with Aikido is you never get to experience the joy of this.

    Effectiveness and such aside I found I prefer the raw physicality of grappling over the ebb and flow of Aikido
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    Also as you grapple more experience people you will find strength isn't as important as technique and conditioning.

    Wait till some little 150 pound guy just keeps squirming for 2 minutes tires you out and then armbars you.

    I am psychic this will happen soon
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    Also as you grapple more experience people you will find strength isn't as important as technique and conditioning.

    Wait till some little 150 pound guy just keeps squirming for 2 minutes tires you out and then armbars you.

    I am psychic this will happen soon
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    Training for and shooting at Islamic fundamentalists gives me that same buzz !

    GSparks has done that too !!
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    Yes but all I have to do for grappling is travel 10 minutes from my house.

    Much easier to do
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    Quote Originally Posted by Simio de las Rocas
    Training for and shooting at Islamic fundamentalists gives me that same buzz !

    GSparks has done that too !!
    My nephew came back from Afganistan with some good advice. "Trust the villagers only as far as you can carry cat **** between your teeth without grinning." You guys be careful over there.
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    I remember hearing about Aikido masters who could effortlessly fling their opponents left and right without using any strength at all. This sort of control took decades to master, but was truly amazing to see. Average people were powerless to control the true Aikido master.

    In BJJ, instead of taking two decades to gain that sort of "effortless control", it can take as little as two years.

    If Aikido trained like BJJ, then you'd have the same turn around time in gaining results.

    Of course, Aikido would then cease to be Aikido, and would turn into Judo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Soju - Joe
    Also as you grapple more experience people you will find strength isn't as important as technique and conditioning.

    Wait till some little 150 pound guy just keeps squirming for 2 minutes tires you out and then armbars you.

    I am psychic this will happen soon
    Hey Joe long time no talk.
    Makes sense logically but in the greater scheme of things I'm not looking to make someone tap out as much as I'd be wanting to/trying to hurt them so I'd *like* to think before that happens I can mess the little guy up with punchs.

    For training though ya I see your point.
    As for making someone tap out, you bet. But I was just as happy when someone made me tap because to me thats them learning and getting better. It didn't bug me but some of the guys were real bitches about it.

    Dave remember the rules. No pop shots at me just to see if I'm awake.

    Quote Originally Posted by leere_form
    i still think about aikido techniques to help me visualize/understand judo/bjj techniques, if that makes you feel any better.
    You should be a suicide prevention councler, I feel super!
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    Naw I know what you mean
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    GS, I think the OP is your worst post ever, the ignorance and fallacies contained therein couldn't be described adequately in an epic saga, let alone one post, however, you've overcome a hurdle on the way to enlightenment. Congratulations.

    Quote Originally Posted by Joe
    How much did you enjoy forcing someone to tap totally against thier will?
    I have never tapped AGAINST my will...in fact, I think I WANTED to tap ever single time I ever did, considering the alternative.

    Quote Originally Posted by Joe
    Wait till some little 150 pound guy just keeps squirming for 2 minutes tires you out and then armbars you.
    Take Ironman Joe's word on this one. LOL.
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    aikido and judo have a lot in common, technically, imo. just ruminate on the connection between the scissor sweep and ikkyo.

    once they're supported on 3/4 of their limbs, one's from the bottom, the other's from the top.

    also irimi-nage and osoto-gari.. well, any backwards judo throw, really.

    kote-gaeshi and tai-otoshi/sasae-tsurikomi-ashi/forward throws...

    in short, there are only so many ways to make someone fall down. :P
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