Tifton, GA: Al Moore's Lionheart Martial Arts/Universal Fighting Systems

**Drunken Bear** · Posted On: 1/03/2008 6:57pm

Originally Posted by RobT

Screw the armbars and cocoplatas!!

Chokes are obviously his speciality; http://lionhearttifton.com/gallery2/...g2_itemId=2601

Looks more like foreplay for a good skullfucking session, in fact I think he's fingering the other guy's ear.

***WhiteShark*** · Posted On: 1/04/2008 10:27am

Although we have made fun of their grappling I figured I'd throw in a striking picture too. Note their MMA fighter is totally flat footed in this picture. So, not only are they not doing BJJ correctly they aren't doing Muay Thai right either.

http://lionhearttifton.com/gallery2/...g2_itemId=2581

**RobT** · Posted On: 1/04/2008 10:34am

Haha, the brutal "don't use your hips at all" knee. Scary, I've never had any striking instruction at all and I can see that is bad.

Has anyone invited Al Moore to this thread? Has anyone enquired as to what his grappling experience is?

**raystantz** · Posted On: 1/04/2008 10:39am

I don't know him personally. But, until this person came to me with this information I had always heard he knew his stuff. Weird.

**soundless** · Posted On: 1/04/2008 12:54pm

Originally Posted by WhiteShark

Although we have made fun of their grappling I figured I'd throw in a striking picture too. Note their MMA fighter is totally flat footed in this picture. So, not only are they not doing BJJ correctly they aren't doing Muay Thai right either.

http://lionhearttifton.com/gallery2/...g2_itemId=2581

oh i started picking on their striking before, its miserable, at best tkd.

and sorry to inform you but the guy clearly DOESNT know his stuff, and luckily you found a forum where people actually know there stuff very very well.

**Kung-Fu Joe** · Posted On: 1/04/2008 1:03pm

Hahaha, just noticed this one from the website:

Earning her 2nd Degree Black Belt in American Karate in 1998 through a strenuous two hour testing, even though she was racked (sic) with severe thyroid problems was a true inspiration.

Around here, we just call that "being fat."

--Joe

**soundless** · Posted On: 1/04/2008 1:05pm

for a second i thought you meant the guy, cuz he's pretty hefty himself,
but c'mon we've seen the use of "sickness" and "over coming it" in a number of BS schools here, why is it a common theme?

**cyrijl** · Posted On: 1/04/2008 1:37pm

Although we have made fun of their grappling I figured I'd throw in a striking picture too. Note their MMA fighter is totally flat footed in this picture. So, not only are they not doing BJJ correctly they aren't doing Muay Thai right either.

http://lionhearttifton.com/gallery2/...g2_itemId=2581

Who needs their ACL anyways?...

***WhiteShark*** · Posted On: 1/06/2008 8:47am

Here is some more bad news for Sensei Moore. This is from a BJJ Brown belt here in Atlanta that used to live in Tifton.

Here are the key quotes followed by the whole conversation:
"hey man. no no no. lionheart is a complete joke. if anything they will mess you up, and start bad habbits. sub-par grappling is a complement to them."
"if a man is on his path to becoming a mma fighter, he better leave tifon in the dust."
"no one at that place could teach me anything. its a shame im out of tifton, i had a really successful mma program out there. "

post away my man. from a tried and true bjj brown belt under real ufc vets ( diego saraiva, steve headen, raphael assuncao (WEC). Junior assuncao, i can say that they are a joke at best. your trip to tifton would be a waste of gasoline. and as a 7 year specialist of mauy thai, their stand up is laughable as well. karate is one thing ( worthless) if a man is on his path to becoming a mma fighter, he better leave tifon in the dust.

if it was not for tifton, i would be a bjj black belt by now.

call me for further comments.
xxx-xxx-xxxx

----------------- Original Message -----------------
From: Tom
Date: Jan 5, 2008 8:38 AM

I'm a moderator at a martial arts forum where someone asked about them are you comfortable with me posting your comments?
http://www.bullshido.net/forums/showthread.php?t=64541
I live in Atlanta and am a blue belt under Paul Creighton. Its a little too far for me to go to Tifton just to see bad grappling. :)

----------------- Original Message -----------------
From: Casey
Date: Jan 4, 2008 6:36 PM

hey man. no no no. lionheart is a complete joke. if anything they will mess you up, and start bad habbits. sub-par grappling is a complement to them. i have been doing mauy thai for 7 years and bjj for 7. no one at that place could teach me anything. its a shame im out of tifton, i had a really successful mma program out there. let me know if i can help out with anything.

casey

----------------- Original Message -----------------
From: Tom
Date: Jan 4, 2008 11:19 AM

Do you know anything about Lionheart Martial Arts academy? They seem to teach some really sub-par grappling. Since you are a legit BJJ guy and you're from Tifton I was wondering if you had any insight?

http://lionhearttifton.com/index-17.html

-Tom

**money** · Posted On: 1/06/2008 4:09pm

Originally Posted by WhiteShark

Although we have made fun of their grappling I figured I'd throw in a striking picture too. Note their MMA fighter is totally flat footed in this picture. So, not only are they not doing BJJ correctly they aren't doing Muay Thai right either.

http://lionhearttifton.com/gallery2/...g2_itemId=2581

Is he doing a knee or is that a karate front kick? Y'know, the rapid fire from the knee kind.