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  1. HongKongFukYu is offline
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    Quote Originally Posted by PirateJon
    I will talk to my doc at my next appointment and learn more about those funny words you said.
    Mind you, doctors generally have a jaded atitude about nutritional supplements, but bloodwork does not lie. If you use ActivaTe Xtreme (not regular ActivaTe) and get bloodwork routinely (which you obviously do), then you should notice POSITIVE improvement in these areas:

    1) Estradiol --> Down
    2) Free Testosterone --> Up

    Again, the theory is that the reduction of SHBG will cause a rise in free (but not total) test. Also, some bloodwork on the old combo showed a signifigant increase in total test as well, but that hasn't been seen as much with Activate Xtreme. Word of warning...your sex drive will sky rocket, especially when combined with test cyp, and moreso than test cyp alone.

    EDIT: removed something redundant from previous posts.

    I didn't explain this well in the previous post, but here's why I think you should look at Activate Xtreme provided you're not using any anti-estrogens:

    1) SHBG reduction
    2) Estrogen reduction (ActivaTe Xtreme contains anti-e's wheras regular ActivaTe does not).

    EDIT: I can't find the publication now regarding SHBG and aromatization. I would definitely ask your endo if SHBG increases or decreases the chance of it. Since it frees testosterone you would theoretically think that it would increase it, but I could swear reading a publication that stated the opposite. Also intersting to know is that estrogen increases SHBG, but not the other way around.

    EDIT: Found exactly what I was looking for (finally)...this should make for a good discussion with your endo:

    The article is about gynecomastia:

    "The imbalance may also occur from a decrease in free androgens through decreased secretion from the testes, altered metabolism of androgens or increased binding of androgens relative to estrogens by SHBG."

    From:
    http://erc.endocrinology-journals.or...nt/6/2/315.pdf

    Highly recommended read about aromatization! While it doesn't implicate SHBG as a cause of aromatization, it does state that the testosterone/estrogen ratios might get screwed up due to less FREE (not total) testosterone due to SHBG.

    In my limited, non-medical view:

    Excess SHBG = bad
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    Godly post.

    Thanks dude. Next time you're in CHs, i'll buy you a beer. :)
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    If Cracky's cock shrinks any further, we may be about to see what Stephen Hawking described as a 'naked singularity', which is abhored by nature.
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    I think it's great. He'll be like carrot top, only funny.
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    I hope it doesn't make him all aggressive and unreasonable in his posting style. As his friends we should keep an eye on him and let him know when he might be getting out of hand with his roids.
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    I think you can see his pubes if you try.
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    Is that DAYoung before his injury?
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    Quote Originally Posted by PirateJon
    Godly post.

    Thanks dude. Next time you're in CHs, i'll buy you a beer. :)
    Anytime man!
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    Posted On:
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    Christ...does anyone remember when Carrot top wasn't on gear? Not only is he not funny, but his newer "look" (as opposed to his skinny dorky look) doesn't jive with his comedy routine at all.

    Then again he was on Family Guy so he can't be that bad:

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