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  1. Roidie McDouchebag is offline
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    Vitamin "S" To the Rescue!

    So, I'm gonna do a cycle of nandrolone/deca. This will be my first experience with steroids outside of puffers for asthma. Any suggestions?
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    Yeah don't do it!
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    Great, Cracky on 'roids.

    You're already a 'tard, why add roid rage and shrunken wee wee to the mix?

    Take an injectable winstrol if you insist on being an idiot. Not as many side effects, not as liver toxic, wins you friends.

    I'm never gonna fuckin let you hear the end of this, just so you know.
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    Posted On:
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    Cool. Obviously at this stage I'm sure you've done your research, so go for it.

    I'd like you keep a training log of the changes you may feel you experience. Do this without reading other logs.
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    Do you know the difference between estrogen and progesterone related side effects? You'll need something like Dostinex to keep the progesterone related side effects down to a minimum. Arimidex and other anti-estrogens won't be of much use there as Nandralone aromatizes to progesterone NOT estrogen. And from what I understand if you get progesterone related gyno it's a bitch to get rid of...then again estrogen related gyno I'm sure is no picnic either.

    There's a huge myth that nandralone derived steroids do not supress the HPTA axis the way testosterone related ones do. That's bullshit. You will need a solid PCT plan.

    What does your PCT look like?

    What's the length of your cycle?

    Last but not least, some guys complain about "Deca dick" when they're not using testosterone with Deca. Caveat Emptor.

    Second to last but not last, Winstrol supposedly does a good job (along with Dostinex) at mitigating the progesterone related side effects of nandralone, but it also reduces the positive effects that Deca has on the joints.

    Dumb question, why do you want to do Deca and why do you want to use gear at all? This isn't judgemental, just curious.

    EDIT: At the risk of stating the painfully obvious, use supplemental protein with your gear. Gear increases protein synthesis so take advantage of the opportunity.
    Last edited by HongKongFukYu; 12/28/2007 10:23am at .
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    Before and After pics, please.

    And keep a training log.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Grinch
    Before and After pics, please.

    And keep a training log.
    I'd also log 4-8 weeks after the fact as well. If you do it correctly, you'll have retained your gains. If you do it incorrectly (without proper PCT) you'll end up worse off than you started.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HongKongFukYu
    Last but not least, some guys complain about "Deca dick" when they're not using testosterone with Deca. Caveat Emptor.
    What's Deca dick?
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Question
    What's Deca dick?
    The dick no work. Impotence.

    Unlike testosterone this happens WHILE on the cycle. Testosterone, to put it mildly, has the opposite effect.
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