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  1. ark44 is offline

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    12/26/2007 11:39am

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    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    i'm not here to impress anyone, don't get me wrong if i sound like i exagerate, and that is what i have been doing, my greatest difficulty has been balancing full time work with 4 nights of martial arts training a week along with 5 or 6 nights where i need to put in a solid hour or two at the gym. that and getting enough sleep so that my muscles recover and develop properly is the biggest challenge, in short time constraints are a bitch.
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    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    Detail your lifting program for us. Chances are you're lifting far more then you actually need to.
    There's no choice but to confront you, to engage you, to erase you. I've gone to great lengths to expand my threshold of pain. I will use my mistakes against you. There's no other choice.
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    12/26/2007 11:45am

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    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    i don't have a program
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    Posted On:
    12/26/2007 11:46am

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    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    Quote Originally Posted by ark44
    i don't have a program
    No wonder you're fucking up.
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  5. JohnnyCache is offline
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    Quote Originally Posted by ark44
    i don't have a program
    so when you lift weights, do you not lift weights?

    What do you lift on what days, to the best of your recollection if you don't write it down.
    There's no choice but to confront you, to engage you, to erase you. I've gone to great lengths to expand my threshold of pain. I will use my mistakes against you. There's no other choice.
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  6. ark44 is offline

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    12/26/2007 12:08pm

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    alright i do have a program, although it is basic, it's like this

    day 1 forearms, biceps, triceps
    day 2 upper, mid, lower back
    day 3 shoulders
    day 4 legs, calves
    day 5 abs

    days where i end up feeling drained and totally depleted after workout are days 4 and sometimes day 3

    i dedicate a lot of work to my abs and lower back to develop a strong core while keeping a trim waist. i'm aiming for an 'X' body shape, and that means gaining size everywhere except the waist area, abs, lower back, beltline.

    i get my stretches and cardio in at karate, the only problem is when they decide to change their routine because a different instructor is doing class that day, and they focus primarily on strength training rather than running, sprints and stretches.
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    12/26/2007 12:12pm

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    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    what are you doing in the gym for hours at a time? What specific lifts do you use on each day and how many reps do you do?
    There's no choice but to confront you, to engage you, to erase you. I've gone to great lengths to expand my threshold of pain. I will use my mistakes against you. There's no other choice.
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    Posted On:
    12/26/2007 12:20pm

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    Quote Originally Posted by ark44
    alright i do have a program, although it is basic, it's like this

    day 1 forearms, biceps, triceps
    day 2 upper, mid, lower back
    day 3 shoulders
    day 4 legs, calves
    day 5 abs

    days where i end up feeling drained and totally depleted after workout are days 4 and sometimes day 3

    i dedicate a lot of work to my abs and lower back to develop a strong core while keeping a trim waist. i'm aiming for an 'X' body shape, and that means gaining size everywhere except the waist area, abs, lower back, beltline.

    i get my stretches and cardio in at karate, the only problem is when they decide to change their routine because a different instructor is doing class that day, and they focus primarily on strength training rather than running, sprints and stretches.
    This would have to be arguably the worst program you could possibly follow in order to become a better grappler. You also have completely the wrong priorities for your lifting, neglecting the areas that are important (your abs, lowerback, waist area and beltline) while putting too much emphasis on your "pretty" muscles.

    If you are concerned about grappling, change your lifting routine. Look up Rippetoe's "Starting Strength", and do it for a few months while doing more research. Stop doing bodypart splits like a bodybuilder when you don't have a foundation.
    "Emevas,
    You're a scrapper, I like that."-Ronin69
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    Posted On:
    12/26/2007 12:24pm

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    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    Also, you don't get to add "toned and clean" muscle verses "bulky and mass". Muscle is muscle. You add the same muscle no matter how you look. Guys that with "bulky and mass" simply have MORE muscle than guys that are "toned and clean".

    If you're afraid of getting HOMAG TOO HOOGE, don't eat too much.
    "Emevas,
    You're a scrapper, I like that."-Ronin69
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    Posted On:
    12/26/2007 1:32pm

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     Style: TKD, BJJ

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    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    I swear, Emevas looks like some kind of emaciated holocaust survivor in his Pic, and he's deadlifting 500+lbs. So yeah, overbulking shouldn't be a problem for anyone....
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