the AikiJuJutsu i take is just a mix of Daito Ryu, some other styles of JJJ, and Chin Na but it works good and there arent any kata's so i like it more then other TMA's and it works better then karate
Teh KAA-RAY-THAY i take is just a mix of gym-rama, some cheerleading stuff, and boxing but it works good and there aren't any kata's so i liek it moar then other TMA's and it works better then Aikijutsu.
Originally Posted by btbl
Last edited by GRAB MY WRIST; 12/28/2007 2:25am at .
Aikijujutsu (which existed in earlier inacrnations as Yawara and Oshikiuichi) didnt add Aikido to jujutsu....thats actually backwards, Ueshiba (Aikido's founder) was at one point an Aikijuka and he later distilled down Aikijujutsu (Jujutsu that emphasizes Aiki principles), via the Ahimsa or non violent philosophy he acquired from the omoto kyo shinto cult he joined.
Originally Posted by Mdrnsamurai
this distilation doesnt mean Aikido isnt effective, if you train and practice it correctly, but i believe Aikijujutsu is far more effective because it does not seek reconsiliation from the onset, it is decisive, deliberate, destructive, and unforgiving of one's enemIES.
As to Aiki artsy-ness being added to jujutsu, its the Aiki approach/principle that makes Aikijujutsu an effective multi attacker discipline rather than an overcommitted pile of sweaty human pretzels; not to take away from BJJ or JJ, it just doesnt in most cases emphasize the same dynamic nature of combat as Aikijujutsu or even Aikijutsu (a sub set of techniques applying the aiki principle to a combat method..or "jutsu" taught as part of many martial systems; sadly a lot of people snicker at the term because if it isnt daito ryu for some reason it isnt credible because god forbid the aiki concept be understood and applied outside daito ryu aiki budokai (I digress).
This...and no, it can be. its not in the traditional sense, its definitely not Daito-Ryu, but if its martial (meant for war) techniques, taught with a philosophy (and aiki certainly is a philosophy; one which precedes aikijujutsu, aikido and aikijutsu, even the very word itself...as it wasnt a word til the 16th cedntury or so if i recall)
Originally Posted by DCS
so sure, it can stand on its own, existing as an effective system of thought and movement, just dont confuse it for Aikijujutsu and dont expect one dojo or ryu's aiki to be the same as anothers.
theres also a lot of bad...and really bad aikijutsu out there, doesnt mean it all is and we shouldnt crucify the term. ive seen lots LOTS of bad karate, kung-fu, aikido, tae kwon do, etc and I dont burn down the discipline for it, and those arts are even traditionally considered martial arts.
though i personally dont find Aikido to be a martial art because its not "meant for war" and thus kind of negates the martial component for me.