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  1. Virus is offline
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    Hell yeah! Hell no!

    I dont thunk MMA are for real fighting.

    MMA is a great sport but it has many limutations for streetfighting lets take a look at some common MMA technqoues:

    Boxing striking: The problum with this style of striking is that MMA are only used to hitting with gloves on. On the street there are no gloves do you think your opponent is going to sit there wile you put your gloves on? So these people that train this way will hurt thier hand when they punch for real. besides punching in a streetfight will probably hurt your hand if you hit thier skull this is why in eagle claw kung fu we use strikes like this

    Clinch: The clinch is no good for a streetfighting. You need to have both your arms ready for other attackers or nives i dont like the clinch. better things are found in aikido where you dont tie yourself up to one attacker and leaf yourself open to surprise attacks. You are also leaving yourself open to ear bites and grinds if you use a clinch.

    my frend trains at this place and i think thier ranges fighting is better than in MMA and before you ask yes i have been on the receeving end of his technqiues and they hurt a lot and work. http://www.headingleykarate.org/range.htm

    armbars: i would also just bite the foot. I think when you go for armbars you leave your kneecaps open to counterttack. in eagle claw we have technic to attack the knee


    we dont have groundfighting but we can apply this principle to the ground and destroy the kneecap. at my kung fu school we have been testing this against guard, mount and rubber guard and it works great.

    mount: the mount is not a safe position there could be someone sneaking up behind you. you also leave your neck exposed to breaks


    yes this is standup fighting but we also apply this principle to the ground this is why we dont spend much time training on the ground.

    im surprised how many people here hate TMA when all arts came from TMA. You have lot of people that do brasilian jujitsu but they dont know that it comes from jujitsu so why all the hate?


    (this is were brasilian jujitsu comes from)
    there are also people who think that becuase they have video of mma and bjj person winning against karate and kung fu that these things are better. i could go and get footage of these things beeting mma so whats the point? anyway i dont want to get into that becuase you cant compare stiles.

    i just want to say that i respect all styles including things like bjj i just think that they dont work and are a waste of time.
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    Posted On:
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    Quote Originally Posted by Virus
    armbars: i would also just bite the foot. I think when you go for armbars you leave your kneecaps open to counterttack. in eagle claw we have technic to attack the knee
    i thought that the knees was only the weakest joint when it was straight?

    in a armbars it's bent so ur tecnic wont' work?
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    yuo fergot tew cloze teh traycheyah wif eigle calw
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    Posted On:
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    In the time it took you to write this, you could have done something constructive.
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    Posted On:
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     Style: Poor mma

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    That karate group's choice of picture of the "clinch" is concerning.

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    Posted On:
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    Jesus Christ hasn't this dead horse been beaten, beaten some more, hung, burried, dug up for yet another round of beatings, shot, whipped and beaten yet again enough fucking times?
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    Posted On:
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     Style: Wrestling, Judo, MMA

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    Quote Originally Posted by Virus
    MMA is a great sport but it has many limutations for streetfighting lets take a look at some common MMA technqoues:

    Boxing striking: The problum with this style of striking is that MMA are only used to hitting with gloves on. On the street there are no gloves do you think your opponent is going to sit there wile you put your gloves on? So these people that train this way will hurt thier hand when they punch for real. besides punching in a streetfight will probably hurt your hand if you hit thier skull this is why in eagle claw kung fu we use strikes like this



    Clinch: The clinch is no good for a streetfighting. You need to have both your arms ready for other attackers or nives i dont like the clinch. better things are found in aikido where you dont tie yourself up to one attacker and leaf yourself open to surprise attacks. You are also leaving yourself open to ear bites and grinds if you use a clinch.

    my frend trains at this place and i think thier ranges fighting is better than in MMA and before you ask yes i have been on the receeving end of his technqiues and they hurt a lot and work. http://www.headingleykarate.org/range.htm

    armbars: i would also just bite the foot. I think when you go for armbars you leave your kneecaps open to counterttack. in eagle claw we have technic to attack the knee


    we dont have groundfighting but we can apply this principle to the ground and destroy the kneecap. at my kung fu school we have been testing this against guard, mount and rubber guard and it works great.

    mount: the mount is not a safe position there could be someone sneaking up behind you. you also leave your neck exposed to breaks


    yes this is standup fighting but we also apply this principle to the ground this is why we dont spend much time training on the ground.

    im surprised how many people here hate TMA when all arts came from TMA. You have lot of people that do brasilian jujitsu but they dont know that it comes from jujitsu so why all the hate?



    there are also people who think that becuase they have video of mma and bjj person winning against karate and kung fu that these things are better. i could go and get footage of these things beeting mma so whats the point? anyway i dont want to get into that becuase you cant compare stiles.

    i just want to say that i respect all styles including things like bjj i just think that they dont work and are a waste of time.
    HAHAHAHA!!!

    oh wait...you're serious

    have you been in a real fight before? in my experience, a couple of punches are thrown, someone throws the other person to the ground, person on top or standing beats vunerable opponent to bloody plup. sounds pretty close to an mma fight to me except the person on the ground knows how defend themselves much better in an mma fight.

    opps forget one last thing, while standing victoriously over beaten opponent, his jackass ***** friends run up and completely blind side you.....all out brawl ensues till principle/ police officers show up

    ps- biting a foot while in an armbar is an open invitation to a stinky heel sandwich and some broken teeth
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    Posted On:
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    Quote Originally Posted by akuma25
    HAHAHAHA!!!

    oh wait...you're serious

    have you been in a real fight before? in my experience, a couple of punches are thrown, someone throws the other person to the ground, person on top or standing beats vunerable opponent to bloody plup. sounds pretty close to an mma fight to me except the person on the ground knows how defend themselves much better in an mma fight.

    opps forget one last thing, while standing victoriously over beaten opponent, his jackass ***** friends run up and completely blind side you.....all out brawl ensues till principle/ police officers show up

    ps- biting a foot while in an armbar is an open invitation to a stinky heel sandwich and some broken teeth
    Some of you guys are far too easy to toy with.

    I can't believe anyone can't see this for what it is.
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    Posted On:
    12/17/2007 10:15pm


     Style: Wrestling, Judo, MMA

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShrekBJJ
    Some of you guys are far too easy to toy with.

    I can't believe anyone can't see this for what it is.
    perhaps i havent been here long enough to see the wolves in sheep wool.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Virus
    MMA is a great sport but it has many limutations for streetfighting lets take a look at some common MMA technqoues:

    Boxing striking: The problum with this style of striking is that MMA are only used to hitting with gloves on. On the street there are no gloves do you think your opponent is going to sit there wile you put your gloves on? So these people that train this way will hurt thier hand when they punch for real. besides punching in a streetfight will probably hurt your hand if you hit thier skull this is why in eagle claw kung fu we use strikes like this



    Clinch: The clinch is no good for a streetfighting. You need to have both your arms ready for other attackers or nives i dont like the clinch. better things are found in aikido where you dont tie yourself up to one attacker and leaf yourself open to surprise attacks. You are also leaving yourself open to ear bites and grinds if you use a clinch.

    my frend trains at this place and i think thier ranges fighting is better than in MMA and before you ask yes i have been on the receeving end of his technqiues and they hurt a lot and work. http://www.headingleykarate.org/range.htm

    armbars: i would also just bite the foot. I think when you go for armbars you leave your kneecaps open to counterttack. in eagle claw we have technic to attack the knee


    we dont have groundfighting but we can apply this principle to the ground and destroy the kneecap. at my kung fu school we have been testing this against guard, mount and rubber guard and it works great.

    mount: the mount is not a safe position there could be someone sneaking up behind you. you also leave your neck exposed to breaks


    yes this is standup fighting but we also apply this principle to the ground this is why we dont spend much time training on the ground.

    im surprised how many people here hate TMA when all arts came from TMA. You have lot of people that do brasilian jujitsu but they dont know that it comes from jujitsu so why all the hate?



    there are also people who think that becuase they have video of mma and bjj person winning against karate and kung fu that these things are better. i could go and get footage of these things beeting mma so whats the point? anyway i dont want to get into that becuase you cant compare stiles.

    i just want to say that i respect all styles including things like bjj i just think that they dont work and are a waste of time.
    Your troll-fu is strong

    May I train with you Sifu?
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