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  1. DarkXacreD is offline

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    12/13/2007 9:48pm


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    Punching car tires

    Yesterday I was at muay thai, and shortly after I was told to tuck my elbows in more with my cross, I was told that I need to hit the car tires more.

    What does this actually do and how is it different from a punching bag?
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    I have seen this in FMA, but that's because the same targets are very useful for sticks and such.
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    I guess its for more conditioning, theres some flex in them so you shouldnt injure yourself to much. But I imagine it will break the top skin. Either that or it will expose the weaknesses in your technique more.
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    I've kicked tires in muay thai and honestly am not sure what the difference would be between that and kicking a bag. I've always assumed it was a "tradition" that stemmed from training methods developed in poorer countries where tires would have been more readily available than heavy bags.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChickenBeakFist
    I've kicked tires in muay thai and honestly am not sure what the difference would be between that and kicking a bag. I've always assumed it was a "tradition" that stemmed from training methods developed in poorer countries where tires would have been more readily available than heavy bags.
    yes, i experienced the same when i went to thailand to train. we used tires a couple of different ways: two were bolted to the sides of a pillar and were used for roundhouse kicks, and a few more were laid down on the ground and were used for various footwork drills.

    i found kicking them to be tougher than kicking the heavy bags, and the footwork drills using the tires were great. never saw anyone punch them, however.
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    It is. Bald tires are cheaper and far more plentiful than quality heavy bags.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yukon Cornelius
    It is. Bald tires are cheaper and far more plentiful than quality heavy bags.
    I know people use tires for escrima/arnis/kail training. If you know anyone who works at a auto shop or tire place see if you can get old tires from them.
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    I use the pell for smacking with weapons mostly, but they work GREAT for exercising your grip in a reaching/snatching motion. Grab from the front, fingers on one side, thumb on the other ... clawlike? Good work for the grip and achieving a fast hard grip in a striking motion. Do this forehand and backhand.
    For punching I've found the spring to be a bit too random for wrist safety, the hanging heavy bag feels safer.
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    12/14/2007 9:07pm


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    These were like...two normal car tires (with the grooves and everything) stacked on top of each other and hung from the ceiling like a heavy bag, only the bottom of the two tires was around the height of my collarbone.

    Y'know, I get the feeling he just told me to punch them to wear out my bag gloves. I just got them last year and they still look brand new. It's not my fault they're good quality, right?

    The one difference I felt was that it would bounce my fist back when I punched it, possibly sending a more exaggerated, but less damaging jolt through my joints if I hit it with bad technique, as opposed to just putting shock and strain into my shoulders.
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    Did it extensively for karate for a year; cuts the skin on your hands and elbows and knees everytime, but takes all the force you can give. Bring wound tape and prepare to bleed.
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