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  1. btbl is offline

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    12/12/2007 10:03pm

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    punching from the hip?

    what is the major argument agains punching from the hip? i much prefer wing chun and boxing punches, but my friend believes that since the karate from hip punch travels longer it hits with more momentum. So why does everyone consider it uneffective?
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    12/12/2007 10:06pm

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    it leaves you unprotected for the most part. and it is slower. i learned this when i switched from TKD to boxing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by btbl
    what is the major argument agains punching from the hip? i much prefer wing chun and boxing punches, but my friend believes that since the karate from hip punch travels longer it hits with more momentum. So why does everyone consider it uneffective?
    You can twist your body a lot more for this chambered punch, but like the previous poster said, it leaves you WIDE open.

    Punching from a boxer's stance is more practical, safe, and quick. There could be an argument about power, but you can only put so much of your body's force into a punch.

    Boxers have been doing this for years, they know what they're doing.
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    12/13/2007 7:36am


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    I am pretty certain that "travel distance" doesn't have anything to do with momentum. The only relationship I can think of would assume that the punch was accelerating during the the entire travel distance, thus having a higher velocity upon impact.

    That said, we (I) do sometimes throw a body shot where my hand drops down close to my hip or maybe lower ribcage and then extends in for the body shot. This is not the same thing as carrying the hand down low the entire time.
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    I would tell your friend to watch the karate guys in K-1, they are his new sensei's.
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    Just head kick him on that side next time he tries to punch from the hip.
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    In most cases the negative outweigh the positives.

    Travel distance isn't an issue, because you can throw a punch from your face the same distance as from your hip, it just depends on your distance from the target.

    I think some sort of physics person could answer this better. Its a more direct line of energy from the ground, to the hip, to the hand, than the ground, to the hip, to the shoulder, to the hand.

    And of course like everyone else said, if your hand is at your hip, its not protecting your face. Punching from the face is much simpler and 99% of the time all you need.
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    I have seen some boxers that totally tool thier opponents with thier front hand down by the waist, but thats like .05% of boxers, if even that many.

    Safe bet is, keep your hands at your head.
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    That was known as the weakness of the Kronk gym fighters:
    keeping their left hand low
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    Ask him to show you what his defense is against hooks to the head. Whatever it is, it will probably work better from the chin than the hip.
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