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  1. melk is offline
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    Quote Originally Posted by jubei33
    "don't get put in a sleeper hold, because the next morning your butt will really hurt."

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    do you mind explaining that
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    Quote Originally Posted by melk
    A tapping partner is one thing. When practising escapes from chokes however, it has always been my practice to try to hold on and choke, or strangle, my partner, to make him tap, when doing the non-compliant part of training, and I want my partner to do the same to me. The reason is simple, I don't want to be in a match, get head hugged and not be able to get out of it on account of my partner having been too soft in training.
    Understood and axiomatic. In my particular instance, I was trying to explain that the Uke was learning to apply Chokes and Strangles and the many ways they can be effected.

    Escapes are a separate drill.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eddie Hardon
    BTW, I'm also assuming that you have learned the difference between a Strangle and a Choke? Since that should also have been part of your lesson.
    I never know which one is which and don't care. There are wind chokes and blood chokes. All else is jargon. Not knowing the difference has not kept from putting people to sleep.
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    Just before Thanksgiving we did a 2 hour choke clinic, and I was choked/strangled 100+ times (estimated). I sounded like James Earl Jones for a week. It goes away, I wouldn't worry about it.
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    My throat is fine now, thanks!
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    Quote Originally Posted by melk
    do you mind explaining that
    ever seen the Chappelle show?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jubei33
    ever seen the Chappelle show?
    No. Sorry
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    Quote Originally Posted by UpaLumpa
    I never know which one is which and don't care. There are wind chokes and blood chokes. All else is jargon. Not knowing the difference has not kept from putting people to sleep.
    Ok, Fine. My comment was merely to help the krood chappie.
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    Quote Originally Posted by melk
    No. Sorry
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    look under mad real world and sleeper hold.
    found it for you, merry chrisma...Hanukkah?
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    Quote Originally Posted by melk
    We're talking about a bruise you pansy not a broken bone or a torn ligament, just a bruise. If you train in any fight sport or self defense system and don't get bruised on a fairly regular basis, I have news for you: You're not training to fight, your training to get beat down!!
    Quoted for truth. It's quite common to get the throat sore during practice, but as somebody said, the trachea is not a fragile gelatinous **** either. If it were, no one would be able to get past their 6th month of training.

    I've found out that the best thing, at least for ME, is to rub and massage the throat with vick vaporub. No ice, no hot pads, no icy hot or tiger balm. Vick vaporub. Ice or hot pads don't do ****, and things like icy hot or tiger balm seem (at least to me) to be too strong for the trachea (they are ok for the neck muscles). But vick vaporub provides relief, just as it would with a cold/flu-related sore throat.

    Minor discomfort =/= oh ****, teh d34dl3y. I'm more concerned with joint locks on my shoulders and elbows over what people do to my neck and throat to be honest.
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