Thread: New pair of sticks
12/06/2007 4:48pm, #11
- Join Date
- Apr 2005
- Seattle (Ballard), WA
My club is notorious for breaking sticks. We have broken everything that we have gotten our hands on. Rattan, smak sticks, bahi, kamagong, lexan, poly carb, oak, and lots of other stuff. We have broken samples of almost every unbreakable stick produced by various manufacturers under regular training.
Rattan is cheap and easily replaceable. It also doesn't tend to send sharp pieces flying when it breaks. I personally just stick to rattan for this reason.
Even though it is a natural material and consequently somewhat inconsistent in quality, most of my better stick were of Manau rattan, usually bought from rattan furniture manufacturers. While the fancy burning and laquering of some fancier looking rattan may be great aesthetically, I haven't noticed these traditional sticks are any better. In fact, the skin seems to split sooner than unfinished natural rattan in many cases, from my experience.
Out of the hardwoods, I have yet to try hickory which is supposedly the best. Bahi isn't too bad, but splinters and splits after time. I have broken every kamagong stick I've ever used. In my opinion, kamagong is just a showpiece stick that seems to break any time you make stick to stick contact, which makes it a very poor choice for training. I wouldn't use it for a fighting stick either, even though it's got such impressive weight. It just seems to prone to catastrophic breakage.
12/06/2007 4:52pm, #12Originally Posted by ChickenBeakFist
i do know that he is an awesome guy and made a custom TCMA staff for me out of rattan that is the nicest i have ever seen and is well outside the normal size parameters he is used to working with (7.5' long, not sure what diameter off the top of my head) my point being that his customer service is amazing."Face punches are an essential character building part of a martial art. You don't truly love your children unless you allow them to get punched in the face." - chi-conspiricy
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12/06/2007 4:54pm, #13
- Join Date
- Feb 2006
- austin, tx
Lots of other stick suppliers buy their stock from Nick, so it's pretty likely the dog bros ones are just particularly thick ones from him.
12/06/2007 4:57pm, #14
Thanks for the feedback folks. Think I'm gonna go with bloodsport. Pick up a couple pairs of varying widths. Looks like they're pretty solid in quality and customer service.
And ChickenBeak- nice avatar. Tura Satana is f'ing hot.
12/06/2007 5:08pm, #15
Just on a "two cents" note, I concur with the "hardwood or plastic against rattan makes you an asshole" opinion.
I always try to make sure my next set of sticks is a different weight/length/thickness from the set I just wore out; get used to not being able to get used to a consistent weight.Monkey Ninjas! Attack!
12/06/2007 9:09pm, #16Originally Posted by Ming Loyalist
Aloha, PoiKuha'o - Kela - Koa
12/07/2007 12:59am, #17Originally Posted by ChickenBeakFist
12/07/2007 6:47am, #18Originally Posted by Ryno
to make up for it, i have some solid aluminum rods. they dont dent.:new_all_c
12/07/2007 8:40am, #19
- Join Date
- Oct 2007
Go with the plastic ones. Our teacher buys them cheap, we use them all the time and they are nearly indestructible - they get worn out and bruised, but continue to be effective. We leave the expensive, imported rattan to special occasions only. The plastic ones are used even for sparring, hollow ones with added padding. But never mix rattan and plastic.
My teacher even had made a special stick with only self defense in mind. It is hard plastic, white colored and instead of the traditional round shape, it is square shaped... really nasty. It is even named - Kaiser. lol
12/12/2007 2:07pm, #20
Just got my new sticks last night- a pair of 7/8" x 28" and a pair of 1 1/4" x 24" and they ROCK! Both pairs are very solid and feel good in the hand. Makes me want to break something. Or someone. Can't wait for class tonight so I can try them out. I'd highly recommend anyone who's looking for a pair of rattan sticks to go with Nick. The t-shirts fit well too.