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    well.....

    1. I'm an adult...

    2. It's up to you to protect yourself from stuff like this happening, and if you don't like it, DONT SIGN.... I trusted people when I should have known better.

    3. If I wanted to learn how to kick ass, it wouldn't be in a TKD school....

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    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    The easiest way to get out of the contract is to fake up the paperwork to show you've moved to an address more than X number of miles from the school. If you have a scanner/printer it's trivial to alter a utility bill to show your address as being somewhere else. I did it to get out of a contract with a TERRIBLE TKD McDojo in florida.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kintanon
    The easiest way to get out of the contract is to fake up the paperwork to show you've moved to an address more than X number of miles from the school. If you have a scanner/printer it's trivial to alter a utility bill to show your address as being somewhere else. I did it to get out of a contract with a TERRIBLE TKD McDojo in florida.
    What, where, when? I'm kinda interested to see if anyone has had luck getting out of a contract with anything short of this method. How does one go about getting kicked out of their dojang if it is so bad? Most of the instructors hate me, but the students think I'm decent. Is this a good start on the road to breaking free?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kintanon
    The easiest way to get out of the contract is to fake up the paperwork to show you've moved to an address more than X number of miles from the school. If you have a scanner/printer it's trivial to alter a utility bill to show your address as being somewhere else. I did it to get out of a contract with a TERRIBLE TKD McDojo in florida.

    How many pieces of 'proof' did you need? Did you have to send it to the billing company or to your instructor?

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    We had to send a copy of a utility bill showing the new address and it had to be in my name. I had to fax it to the billing company.

    The school was Unified TKD near Daytona. It now has an MMA program that has a legit BJJ blue belt teaching, and a good Judo 5th or 6th dan, but the owner is still a useless wanker. He's just very good at getting other people to do the work for him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kintanon
    The easiest way to get out of the contract is to fake up the paperwork to show you've moved to an address more than X number of miles from the school. If you have a scanner/printer it's trivial to alter a utility bill to show your address as being somewhere else. I did it to get out of a contract with a TERRIBLE TKD McDojo in florida.
    I'm not a lawyer, and I don't support contracts for MA schools, but I am curious as to whether this constitutes fraud?

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    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    Though I don't practice in Florida it probably constitutes civil fraud at the very least.

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    Have you tried talking to the owner. Unless the reason for quitting is offensive, he may likely let you out of the contract.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tom.f
    Have you tried talking to the owner. Unless the reason for quitting is offensive, he may likely let you out of the contract.
    Alot of times the contract isnt even with the owner but actualy with a billing company. Sometimes the said owner has ZERO say in the cancelation and simply refers you to the biling company.

    As far as getting a utility bill in your name, you can do that legitamitly. You could 'move in' with a friend for a few months and get the bill in your name. You now have a document showing your change of address as well as a friend as a witness that you lived with him. Offer to pay your friend a few months utility and you get yourself out of a contract that can sometimes go into collections for thousands of dollars.

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    Yes, What I did constitutes fraud. I'm comfortable with that.

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