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  1. sambosteve is offline
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    So it's just a coincidence that another garage-trained grandmaster has resurfaced right after the Sensei Al saga . . . . . and he has now changed his whole world around to claim to be a Sambo badass? After a legit Sambo badass was the main reason the Sensei Al troll failed to be epic?
    He started his sambo sit back in September...I just never posted it here as I was still looking into him. He had taken his site down for a while after I confronted him about it. But, it recently came back up. So, the thread on our forum started up again. The thread is too long to rehash here, but that is the gist of it.

    But, here is Bank's myspace page and a very funny quote from it:
    http://myspace.com/sambocombatives


    In the pictures, you will see me in my Spartan Gym shirt. Sadly, the Spartan Gym no longer exists. But moving right along, I have been encouraged by my Sambo instructor to get Sambo into the public eye. And if you look closely at the pictures, teaching the Marines at MacDill AFB, you will see some of Sambo in action. The particular leg lock system you see in the photos is my contribution to the art. It's not a great contribution, but it was good enough to give me instructor status in Sambo by Jakob and Michael Mercer. (To gain that level, a student must make a contrbution to the art. Jakob felt that I did).

    Anyhow, some people have cautioned me not to show my Sniper System of leg locks. They think the system is great and that it shouldn't be seen by anyone who hasn't earned the right by training with me directly. Oh well. I have posted a few pictures so you could see it firsthand. They say pictures speak a thousand words. And some of my guys think I'm educating the public as to our peculiar take on things. But don't worry. Though pictures speak a thousand words, they also leave out a million more. In other words, without seeing how I got to the leg locks, then the pictures will be of little value to you. You need to know the "connective tissue" that holds it altogether. And no picture can provide that for you.

    In response to my students, let me remind you that we are always evolving. Although the Sniper System of leg locks might appear the latest and greatest to some, let me assure you that I'm already developing another version. So by the time anyone has learned the system, I will have something else that surpasses it. This isn't bragging, it's merely the truth.

    All that aside, look at the pictures through a microscope. If you think creatively, you can get a lot from them. In fact, I have chosen the pictures that I think best demonstrate the essence of the Sniper System and of Sambo as well. Check them out, pay attention to the headings, and before long you will have a great visual supplement to your gym training. Pictures can't teach you, but they can help your instructor teach you. I hope these pictures help.

    PS: This Sambo MySpace is intended to be a training page for Sambo. So expect more blogs and pictures soon. Until next time ...
    The post smells like snake oil...
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    Posted On:
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    Everybody take a step back and THINK before your 'OMG IZ THIZ BE TROLLZ' paranoia gets the better of you. This will be the last post in this thread entertaining this tangent.

    Stick to the topic.


    Thanks Steve. The reason that 'post smells like snake oil' is because it is snake oil (said as if you didn't know already). :smile:
    Calm down, it's only ones and zeros.

    "Your calm and professional manner of response is really draining all the fun out of this. Can you reply more like Dr. Fagbot or something? Call me some names, mention some sand in my vagina or something of the sort. You can't expect me to come up with reasonable arguments man!" -- MaverickZ

    "Tom Kagan spins in his grave and the fucking guy isn't even dead yet." -- Snake Plissken

    My Bullshido fan club threads:
    Tom Kagan's a big hairy...
    Tom Kagan can lick my BALLS
    Tom Kagan teaches _ing __un and bigotry?
    Tom Kagan: Serious discussion here
    Lamokio asks the burning question is Tom Kagan a ***** or just cruising for some
    I'm Dave the gay Kickboxer from Manchester and I have the hots for Tom Kagan
    TOM KAGAN, OPEN ME, THE MKT ARE COMING FOR YOU ! ARE YOU MAN ENOUGH TO MEET ?
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    World Dominator 'Kagan' in plot to lie about real Kung Fu and Martial Arts
    Tom Kagan just gave me my third negative rep in a day
    I am infatuated with Tom Kagan
    Tom Kagan is a fat balding white guy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sambosteve
    The post smells like snake oil...
    Steve, what's your take on the techniques in the photos?

    --Joe
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    Steve, what's your take on the techniques in the photos?
    Well, it can tough to critique pictures since you don't know the context. Those wer obviously meant to look like (or are) pics takes in transition. But, having said that, they look sloppy and lacking knowledge of the fine tuning of submissions.

    Also, if you look at what he claims he invented "the sniper leg lock system", that is old stuff. Just ask the guys who came to the sensei al thing. I taught the guys some of that stuff...only much better IMO
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    the picture of the armbar is nice, "How do armbar?"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kung-Fu Joe
    Steve, what's your take on the techniques in the photos?

    --Joe
    A heel hook?
    Revolutionary.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sambosteve
    Well, it can tough to critique pictures since you don't know the context. Those wer obviously meant to look like (or are) pics takes in transition. But, having said that, they look sloppy and lacking knowledge of the fine tuning of submissions.

    Also, if you look at what he claims he invented "the sniper leg lock system", that is old stuff. Just ask the guys who came to the sensei al thing. I taught the guys some of that stuff...only much better IMO
    I have been doing those leg locks since the mid-90's. There is nothing new in those pictures IMO. Even as a relative noob to Sambo(or at least in-experienced) it is not hard to tell that the positioning is off and sloppy. It would seem that if you were going to show pictures on your web-site of you and your awesome skills in action, you would at least pose the shots well(if nothing else get a book and copy the pictures).
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    more likely then not he has no idea what looks sloppy and what doesnt and wouldnt be able to pose them well regardless
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    that's no armbar, that's a slot machine
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    Posted On:
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    Quote Originally Posted by sambosteve
    that's no armbar, that's a slot machine
    How often does it pay off!?

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    A heel hook?
    Revolutionary.

    Isn't it? I love the discovery of the heel hook. It was invented by Christopher Columbus when he found out that bith Americo Vespucci stole his discovery of the new land.
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